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who saw mayweather turn on the gas in round 8. i thought he was trying to pull the rope a dope until that point. great great fight. what was even greater was the street brawls between the hatton and mayweather supporters on the way out of the pub. within 5 minutes 6 squad cars arrived. messy. lol

i love a well matched title fight. shout out to angelina jolie looking amazing as usual.

joe as a the clear boxing enthusiast you are, you must realise the ref had a shocker!

he stopped hatton working the inside which was the only way he could have had success.

although you say he doesn't like to allow this, mayweather was doing it all fight! fair enough he mixed it up more than hatton with some masterful ranged punching and that was what ultimately did the damage, but i think it was very very one sided refereeing. how can you allow one fighter to get away with it but penalize another for doing so?

to make it clear, i am not saying this cost hatton the fight. mayweather is different class, and showed his full ability as the best pound for pound around. starting off slow, letting hatton chase him but picking him off, finding his range. then once enough facial work had been done, coming inside on the blind side of the ref, very sneaky! going to work on the body to sap hatton's energy. and then finishing off with some powerful combinations and that thumping left hook.

what i am saying is, hatton was fighting 2 men in that ring not one and mayweather supporters must acknowledge this or you're blind!

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i hope the hopkins calzaghe fight comes together, reportedly at yankee stadium. however, i hope a truly neutral referee is appointed.

i was disgusted by hopkins remarks that 'he would never lose to a white man' can you imagine what would have happened if calzaghe had said he would never lose to a black man? he would be attacked by all sections of the sport, the media, and probably suspended. all rightly so as racism has no place in sport. but how is it that hopkins can get away with it?

i hope the fight does come together. i would make the trip to NYC (hopefully it would fall the same time as dubwar - that would be sweet) and hopkins will get his comeuppance.

cody wrote:joe as a the clear boxing enthusiast you are, you must realise the ref had a shocker!

he stopped hatton working the inside which was the only way he could have had success.

although you say he doesn't like to allow this, mayweather was doing it all fight! fair enough he mixed it up more than hatton with some masterful ranged punching and that was what ultimately did the damage, but i think it was very very one sided refereeing. how can you allow one fighter to get away with it but penalize another for doing so?

to make it clear, i am not saying this cost hatton the fight. mayweather is different class, and showed his full ability as the best pound for pound around. starting off slow, letting hatton chase him but picking him off, finding his range. then once enough facial work had been done, coming inside on the blind side of the ref, very sneaky! going to work on the body to sap hatton's energy. and then finishing off with some powerful combinations and that thumping left hook.

what i am saying is, hatton was fighting 2 men in that ring not one and mayweather supporters must acknowledge this or you're blind!

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i hope the hopkins calzaghe fight comes together, reportedly at yankee stadium. however, i hope a truly neutral referee is appointed.

i was disgusted by hopkins remarks that 'he would never lose to a white man' can you imagine what would have happened if calzaghe had said he would never lose to a black man? he would be attacked by all sections of the sport, the media, and probably suspended. all rightly so as racism has no place in sport. but how is it that hopkins can get away with it?

i hope the fight does come together. i would make the trip to NYC (hopefully it would fall the same time as dubwar - that would be sweet) and hopkins will get his comeuppance.

agreed.

i cant actually believe people are saying it was a great great fight. bollocks.

that wasnt fighting. that was one guy trying to fight, while the other guy pussied about doing everything he could to cheat within the shoddy rules.

the ref was a prick.

u can tell that mayweather guy has made a career out of dodging about ducking too low, and basically avoiding having any real fights.

what a waste of a title.

Dopplegangbanger wrote:
that wasnt fighting. that was one guy trying to fight, while the other guy pussied about doing everything he could to cheat within the shoddy rules.

the ref was a prick.

u can tell that mayweather guy has made a career out of dodging about ducking too low, and basically avoiding having any real fights.

what a waste of a title.

I wanted Hatton to win but tbh he was thoroughly outclassed and he didn't want a proper fight, he was looking to rough him up on the inside and Mayweather was too cunning, strong, and good defensively to totally nullify it and kept on picking off Hatton when he just kept predictably trying the same tactic.

WHOA!

i think you misunderstood. i was actually suprised by how GOOD mayweather was at close quaters, i knew he was class at range.

what annoyed me was how the ref allowed fm to come in and work the inside while stopping rh doing exactly the same thing.

cody wrote:he stopped hatton working the inside which was the only way he could have had success.

Thanks for the good words earlier on -- but, the ref didnt prevent Hatton from punching inside. The ref prevented Hatton from holding. That's what a good ref does.

4 criteria for scoring a fight:
1. clean punching
2. effective aggressiveness
3. ring generalship
4. defense -- with an emphasis on clean punching.

Hatton did none of these things, especially with regard to point 2, effective aggressiveness. Hatton could have hit Mayweather on the elbows while PBF was against the ropes all night.
That's not clean punching.
Aggressive -- yes. Effective -- no.

When did Hatton control the fight? Maybe the 4th round -- that's one round out of the 10 they fought. Not exactly ring generalship.

Defense -- Hatton decided to block punches with his forehead and face. That's not defense.

Here's what was effective -- PBF's left hook in the 8th.
Clean punching -- how about PBF finishing Hatton?
Ring generalship -- check the scorecards ( i listed the final #'s in a previous post.) What's more effective than those scorecards in favor of Mayweather?
Defense -- shoulder roll. That was all night.

cody wrote:i hope the hopkins calzaghe fight comes together, reportedly at yankee stadium. however, i hope a truly neutral referee is appointed.

i was disgusted by hopkins remarks that 'he would never lose to a white man' can you imagine what would have happened if calzaghe had said he would never lose to a black man? he would be attacked by all sections of the sport, the media, and probably suspended. all rightly so as racism has no place in sport. but how is it that hopkins can get away with it?

i hope the fight does come together. i would make the trip to NYC (hopefully it would fall the same time as dubwar - that would be sweet) and hopkins will get his comeuppance.

I've heard the same thing about the a Yankee Stadium fight. That would sell out. And -- i'm not sure who wins that fight. Calzaghe will give any fighter issues -- including B-Hop. They'll get a neutral ref....

The racism angle -- Hopkins shouldn't get away with it. It's racist and wrong -- no matter who says what. What's frustrating is the "double-standard" and certain fallacies that exist in sports when it comes to black people and white people. Black QB's in the NFL are athletic. White QB's in the NFL are intelligent. White db's are slower than black db's in the NFL. There are no good white wide receivers in the NFL. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Shit -- Hollywood has taken the "double-standard/fallacy" a step further. 15 years ago, a movie called "White Men Can't Jump" debuted in theatres.

You can draw your own conclusions -- I'll leave it at this...i know plenty of white men that can jump and plenty of black men that can't jump. Yours truly -- let's just say that i won't get any technical fouls for hanging on the rim.

I can dunk a donut....I can slam a door, but i can do neither of the aforementioned with a basketball.

Dopplegangbanger wrote:u can tell that mayweather guy has made a career out of dodging about ducking too low, and basically avoiding having any real fights.

READ THIS POST. Who exactly has Mayweather ducked? PBF = superior competition.

Hatton -- not so much.

cody wrote:WHOA!

i think you misunderstood. i was actually suprised by how GOOD mayweather was at close quaters, i knew he was class at range.

what annoyed me was how the ref allowed fm to come in and work the inside while stopping rh doing exactly the same thing.

i'll get my coat.

out to joe nice. every post you write is concise, on point and interesting!

all you magazines out there need to give this guy some column space (if he doesnt already)


if the BH and JC fight comes together im booking flight asap. i will hassle dave q to put a night on at love. then i will tell chu to pick his favorite whiskey bar in town as i owe him about a 2 nights out.

finally i will tell secret agent gel his favorite mc will be back in town.... not.


sorry thats a really long 'in joke' to write in a boxing thread. anyway, big up joe nice

cody wrote:out to joe nice. every post you write is concise, on point and interesting!

all you magazines out there need to give this guy some column space (if he doesnt already)

if the BH and JC fight comes together im booking flight asap. i will hassle dave q to put a night on at love. then i will tell chu to pick his favorite whiskey bar in town as i owe him about a 2 nights out.

finally i will tell secret agent gel his favorite mc will be back in town.... not.

sorry thats a really long 'in joke' to write in a boxing thread. anyway, big up joe nice

Thanks sir !

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