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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:59 pm
by two oh one
BlizzardMusic wrote:i thought it was a kick on 1 and 9
and a snare or clap or summat on 9.
and hihats shakers and cowbells

Kick on the 1 and 2
Clap on the 3
Snare on the 12 and 17
Cowbells on the 16s
NO HATS!
Tambourine, wherever you fancy.
THAT is how Dubstep is done, laddy.
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:17 pm
by Sharmaji
two oh one wrote:BlizzardMusic wrote:i thought it was a kick on 1 and 9
and a snare or clap or summat on 9.
and hihats shakers and cowbells

Kick on the 1 and 2
Clap on the 3
Snare on the 12 and 17
Cowbells on the 16s
NO HATS!
Tambourine, wherever you fancy.
THAT is how Dubstep is done, laddy.
exactly.
in all seriousness what's been working great for me has been to lay down some drums, get 'em really grooving, and systematically strip away everything that isn't totally necessary for the groove. that's the 'step' for me.
the 'dub' part-- well that's just jah samples and wobble, right?
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:30 pm
by thinking
in case anyone thinks i'm an utterly grumpy c*nt, I'm gonna zip & upload a few lil clips for your perusal. I rarely get round to finishing tunes but I can at least show you lot a few loops - I'm all about interesting riddims.
edit: here ya go -
http://download.yousendit.com/6DF5CB77684F190A

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:45 pm
by narcossist
two oh one wrote:
Non-Quantizing is actually fun, Shonky. When I've done that, I've usually made a tight sequenced beat, play everything live over the top, then go back and delete the original beat and replace it with a new live one. Should explore it more, yeah?
another way to keep the rythm interesting is quantizing to different sampled grooves as a track develops or even on different channels, though that can get a bit too messy. not really as hands on creative as playing the drums in live but it can give a bit of flying lotus esque wonk.
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:28 am
by vonboyage
I might release this wobbler still.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/aqsmd8
its only 1 bar atm but its 320.
..
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:33 am
by two oh one
Waaaaawwoooooowwoooowoooooooo.
Loop it and add some Jah samples.
Then, it's good to go, mate!

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:33 am
by misk
King_Hater wrote:Misk wrote:kick on one, snare on nine. add sub bass and reverb on the snare and you've got a record. duh...
That's what Live PA's do... DJ's don't get passed the kick before pulling the tune.

hahaha .... huh?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:53 am
by grooki
shifty shakers,hihats, and maybe subtle delays this and that, maybe a bit of reverb on that too. A bit of meow for texture, send to a group, and then re-meow, before adding some more meow.
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:24 pm
by vonboyage
two oh one wrote:
Waaaaawwoooooowwoooowoooooooo.
Loop it and add some Jah samples.
Then, it's good to go, mate!

Bruv, i was finkin to do that same thing..
I got some jah's ready and waiting.
I got a feelin bout this one

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:20 pm
by feasible_weasel
good stuff von

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:07 pm
by vonboyage
Come on i know everyone here would buy that.
i mean, why not eh?
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:21 pm
by misk
two oh one wrote:decklyn wrote:two oh one wrote:
Yeah. It has definitely changed in this last year. Shame.
yeah you're feeling that too eh?
Yeah, definitely.
It seemed that people used to want things that sounded different. People were excited to hear how Dubstep
could sound when different producers tackled it, but now people just want to hear something louder and ruder than what came before it. Shame really. I don't know if the more open minded people have moved on, or if the influx of new heads who expect wobble + lollop is throwing things off the balance it once had.
"This track is massive! It sounds like everything else! Big ups"
I know a load of producers that I respect on this board are feeling the same way. And it's shitty to see them so disheartened with the whole thing as they've got so much to give the scene.
pretty much. why do you think i've not made anything for a bit? same reason sir.
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:32 pm
by auan
Misk wrote:two oh one wrote:decklyn wrote:two oh one wrote:
Yeah. It has definitely changed in this last year. Shame.
yeah you're feeling that too eh?
Yeah, definitely.
It seemed that people used to want things that sounded different. People were excited to hear how Dubstep
could sound when different producers tackled it, but now people just want to hear something louder and ruder than what came before it. Shame really. I don't know if the more open minded people have moved on, or if the influx of new heads who expect wobble + lollop is throwing things off the balance it once had.
"This track is massive! It sounds like everything else! Big ups"
I know a load of producers that I respect on this board are feeling the same way. And it's shitty to see them so disheartened with the whole thing as they've got so much to give the scene.
pretty much. why do you think i've not made anything for a bit? same reason sir.
I find myself going back towards dnb for pretty much that reason, before I've even finished a dubstep tune. I liked it when dubstep was experimental and weird and not just loud sub wobbles. Like when even just this year you'd hear a Kode9 Japanese-influenced track mixed into Cluekid's Celtic one mixed into some batfuck insane Boxcutter edits and it sounded
right. Now it's just kick-wobble-snare-wobble-wobble-wobble-oh-that's-enough-wobble-lets-have-some-reece-no-wait-wobble-wobble-snare-repeat.
One bad thing about a genre breaking through, now all the not-so-creative types are jumping on, which they always do, with any genre, it just seemed to happen faster with dubstep.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:06 pm
by contakt
I'll tell you all what IS boring, and that's reading the SAME whinging shit on this forum again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
I don't know what nights you guys go to, but there is so much interesting stuff out at the moment. So many interesting producers. You just got to bother to actually look.
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:12 pm
by vonboyage
What is wrong with your face, rudeboy?
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:13 pm
by contakt
That's my angry face.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:26 pm
by two oh one
Contakt wrote:I'll tell you all what IS boring, and that's reading the SAME whinging shit on this forum again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
I don't know what nights you guys go to, but there is so much interesting stuff out at the moment. So many interesting producers. You just got to bother to actually look.
I was saying this exact thing 6 months ago...
Things have changed.
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:18 pm
by tempest
Contakt wrote:
I don't know what nights you guys go to, but there is so much interesting stuff out at the moment. So many interesting producers. You just got to bother to actually look.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:33 am
by grooki
^what he said
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:26 am
by aike
two oh one wrote:
Kick on the 1 and 2
Clap on the 3
Snare on the 12 and 17
Cowbells on the 16s
NO HATS!
Tambourine, wherever you fancy.
THAT is how Dubstep is done, laddy.
excuse my complete ignorance but is the kick on beat 1 and 2 or 1 and 2 on a 16th grid
just trying different things
cheers any way