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I think michael in a way was forced into the situation he's in - the home situation, looking after bug , that the corners are his way to give his brother a chance. You can see his heart is not really in it - firstly seeing the way the corner boys treated dookie, then the refusal to shoot the fleeing child, then going to the fairground instead of looking after his corner..

chris does show some compassion, i.e. the way he didn't let butchie suffer too much. Also interesting is in the 2nd ep when michael was saying it was stupid to kill someone over an insult, he looked in the mirror - whether it was a 'yeah i know' look to chris, or he was looking at something else wasn't clear. Maybe something is brewing there. Perhaps he sees some similarities between himself and michael - the way he dealt with michael's dad almost seemed llike some catharsis for himself..

datura wrote:I think michael in a way was forced into the situation he's in - the home situation, looking after bug , that the corners are his way to give his brother a chance. You can see his heart is not really in it - firstly seeing the way the corner boys treated dookie, then the refusal to shoot the fleeing child, then going to the fairground instead of looking after his corner..

chris does show some compassion, i.e. the way he didn't let butchie suffer too much. Also interesting is in the 2nd ep when michael was saying it was stupid to kill someone over an insult, he looked in the mirror - whether it was a 'yeah i know' look to chris, or he was looking at something else wasn't clear. Maybe something is brewing there. Perhaps he sees some similarities between himself and michael - the way he dealt with michael's dad almost seemed llike some catharsis for himself..

I remember an episode in season 4 where Chris, Snoop and michael were in the car and Snoop asked Michael why he lives with his brother and why she and Chris took out Michael's father. Michael was abrupt with Snoop and Chris intervened and gave him that look in the rear view mirror.

This is the brilliance of the show - there are so many things that are unsaid, yet you know what's being said.

exactly, it doesn't treat you like you're stupid, it lets you read into motivations yourself rather than spoon feeding you, and is thus more powerful and rewarding.

joenice wrote:Cheese and Slim Charles have one interest -- making money. I don't think they care about their rise to power or gaining notoriety. They just want $. They're happy being the second fiddle.

I dunno. I think it may go a little deeper than that, and there may be conflict between those two this season. You can see a hint of this on the first episode, when Marlo was trying to start drama at the co-op by asking Slim whether his aspirations were to run his own area, or just continue playing second-in-command to Prop Joe. After Slim says "I'm fine where I am", you see Cheese flash him a very annoyed look.

My theory is that Cheese was annoyed b/c he wants to move up and be second to Prop Joe. You can even imagine that he probably feels a bit insulted Slim is #2 instead of him right now, since not only are him and Prop Joe family (Cheese is his nephew), but Slim is a damn ex-Barksdale. That's got to be a bit of a slap in the face.

Marlo probably already sees that tension, and will manipulate it to his benefit. That's one of his greatest strengths right there.

on a side note about Cheese - his surname is Wagstaff - the same as Randy..

someone asked barack obama who his favorite character was : it was omar...you can hear him talk about it here in the audio clips on the left http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/ja ... loves-off/

"he's a gay guy that goes around robbing drug dealers...he is the toughest baddest guy on the show"

go donate! =P

omar is most likely to return to b-more on the next episode- and i think things are gonna turn crazy for marlo snoop and chris. however we will see i guess. everything is crazy with the coop and prop joe. and marlo wants omar bad as fuck...

love this show

datura wrote:i should hopefully have ep 3 to watch later

Haha ! What episode is this from ?

anyway, the only thing that meks me sad about The Wire is that IT'S COMING TO AN END...THIS IS THE LAST SEASON..
and they only give us 10 episodes (if im right) previous seasons have been atleast 12-13 episodes long.

this show cant be praised enough, theres some much layers and nuances in it.
its so much more than just a cop-show.

waiting for that 4th episode so i can get my fix.
omar is gonna go on a rampage after what chris and snoop did to butch.
and McNulty has topped even himself...

sorrry i guess i am speaking to early......

just seen episode 3

can't wait for omar vs chris & snoop

So anyone got ep4? It aired on demand this week, right?

It should have become available yesterday on Demand - hopefully it will surface today.

datura wrote:It should have become available yesterday on Demand - hopefully it will surface today.

feel free to send me a link again, if you have one .. haven't seen it on any torrent sites yet

electric eliminator wrote:So anyone got ep4? It aired on demand this week, right?

It's on-demand as of this morning, for me.

...and all I gotta say is

Any links?

it's not on usenet yet

chop chop m/upload

Check this:

http://forum.breakbeat.co.uk/tm.aspx?m= ... 1970052015

= link to stream of first few episodes + episode 4

got it cheers..

now whether to watch 5,6 +7 and have to wait ages til the last 3

Must be strong..

.... big up all watchin this tonight. got me well chuffed - a bit like the pic.