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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:54 am
by sully_shanks
boomnoise wrote:Joe C wrote:someone needs to collate this thread into a mix.
im opening a petition!
i've started work on this
Ory wrote:Grievous Angel wrote:Check out the remix of Lady Dub that Blackdown played on his last show.
Out soon.
12"?
yep. also played it on the latest BAPS show.
when?! is it out i mean. fat track!
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:50 pm
by phased entity
andreamia wrote:
your tracks are lovely on that mysterymix btw
Why thank you!

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:01 pm
by Littlefoot
boomnoise wrote:Joe C wrote:someone needs to collate this thread into a mix.
im opening a petition!
i've started work on this
please make a song and dance when its up
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:11 pm
by boomnoise
i'll make the song. you can make the dance.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:12 pm
by Jubz
sully_shanks wrote:boomnoise wrote:Joe C wrote:someone needs to collate this thread into a mix.
im opening a petition!
i've started work on this
Ory wrote:Grievous Angel wrote:Check out the remix of Lady Dub that Blackdown played on his last show.
Out soon.
12"?
yep. also played it on the latest BAPS show.
when?! is it out i mean. fat track!
+1
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:16 pm
by boomnoise
Jubscarz wrote:sully_shanks wrote:boomnoise wrote:Joe C wrote:someone needs to collate this thread into a mix.
im opening a petition!
i've started work on this
Ory wrote:Grievous Angel wrote:Check out the remix of Lady Dub that Blackdown played on his last show.
Out soon.
12"?
yep. also played it on the latest BAPS show.
when?! is it out i mean. fat track!
+1
i'd guess at within a month. on devotional dubs.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:41 pm
by lowflyingowl
Really liking the Shonx tracks, cool beats shuffling along, any digital release of these (or 320s

) Also like Sigha's garagey space sounds, Concentration Dub is sounding big.
Anybody know what the score is with the upcoming Scuba release? Really looking forward to it and thought it was out today?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:43 pm
by corpsey
Grievous Angel wrote:Check out the remix of Lady Dub that Blackdown played on his last show.
Out soon.
As I said on the BAPS thread, big big tune
Is it Jah Know Ya Big that the bass sound reminds me of?
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:41 am
by boomnoise
something tangentially related which i've been thinking about for a while:
i'm curious about music which is influenced by garage and techno, yet seemingly skips dubstep.
i mean, obviously it's difficult to remove dubstep as a factor but what if dubstep hadn't developed in this way.
i'm interested in removing it.
music which is influenced directly by both techno and garage: techno garage.
which producers are closest to this sound?
is there an argument for saying that a lot of this so called 'dubstep' is actuallly just techno garage?
would be curious to get the opinions of a few of the producers mentioned and posting in this thread.
possibly worth a new thread but there's loads of minimal / dubstep / techno type threads already.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:51 am
by alien pimp
pretty much these are the terms we're using for the next dubkraft plate scheduled, just the dubstep element is a tiny bit more present than that

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:21 am
by djshiva
wait til you hear alien pimp's new stuff. it's like dubbytechno/deephouse/garage/dubstep. brilliant stuff!
listen to the DUBterror show tonight on dubstep.fm for a sneak preview!

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:40 am
by struggle
boomnoise wrote:techno garage.
which producers are closest to this sound?
'sleepwalk' by a made up sound comes to mind.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:47 am
by epithet
boomnoise wrote:
i'm curious about music which is influenced by garage and techno, yet seemingly skips dubstep.
which producers are closest to this sound?
is there an argument for saying that a lot of this so called 'dubstep' is actuallly just techno garage?
bassline/niche, 4/4garage
Narrows
NO
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:54 am
by selector.dub.u
boomnoise wrote:something tangentially related which i've been thinking about for a while:
i'm curious about music which is influenced by garage and techno, yet seemingly skips dubstep.
i mean, obviously it's difficult to remove dubstep as a factor but what if dubstep hadn't developed in this way.
i'm interested in removing it.
music which is influenced directly by both techno and garage: techno garage.
which producers are closest to this sound?
is there an argument for saying that a lot of this so called 'dubstep' is actuallly just techno garage?
would be curious to get the opinions of a few of the producers mentioned and posting in this thread.
possibly worth a new thread but there's loads of minimal / dubstep / techno type threads already.
sure- i think that label makes sense.
I think people like horsepower productions had that sort of aesthetic a bit. I like to call it broken techno as well. especially that mix 2562 did of losing marbles
another person that is making this sort of techno garage right now is jus wan.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:16 am
by shonky
boomnoise wrote:something tangentially related which i've been thinking about for a while:
i'm curious about music which is influenced by garage and techno, yet seemingly skips dubstep.
i mean, obviously it's difficult to remove dubstep as a factor but what if dubstep hadn't developed in this way.
i'm interested in removing it.
music which is influenced directly by both techno and garage: techno garage.
which producers are closest to this sound?
is there an argument for saying that a lot of this so called 'dubstep' is actuallly just techno garage?
would be curious to get the opinions of a few of the producers mentioned and posting in this thread.
possibly worth a new thread but there's loads of minimal / dubstep / techno type threads already.
I find this really wierd cause dubstep was originally techno and garage if you listen to Horsepower (although there seems to be a growing trend with folks to consider them as something other than dubstep). Wasn't there a Hatcha interview from way back where the dub came from the snare hitting in a place more akin with dub reggae and the step was the garage beat. Basic Channel were clearly an early influence.
I just think of it as garage to be honest, and let's face it electronic music is all techno somewhere down the line.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:11 am
by m9918868
boomnoise wrote:music which is influenced directly by both techno and garage: techno garage.
which producers are closest to this sound?
is there an argument for saying that a lot of this so called 'dubstep' is actuallly just techno garage?
I would like to hear more in this vein. Clearly, there are yet some producers going in that direction, most of them we're yet mentioned, but it's hardly enough. I want more.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:26 am
by numaestro
boomnoise wrote:something tangentially related which i've been thinking about for a while:
i'm curious about music which is influenced by garage and techno, yet seemingly skips dubstep.
i mean, obviously it's difficult to remove dubstep as a factor but what if dubstep hadn't developed in this way.
i'm interested in removing it.
music which is influenced directly by both techno and garage: techno garage.
which producers are closest to this sound?
is there an argument for saying that a lot of this so called 'dubstep' is actuallly just techno garage?
would be curious to get the opinions of a few of the producers mentioned and posting in this thread.
possibly worth a new thread but there's loads of minimal / dubstep / techno type threads already.
I get the impression there are quite a few peeps coming from different directions - some more garage, some more techno and varying shades of both. A lot of the ground has already been covered - but there are some spaces worth exploring. Also - peeps getting tired of the formula dubstep sound. I think the goalposts were moved around 2003 - dubstep kinda abandoned the garage territory. I can only think of some kode 9 or perhaps some early Random Trio that referenced the whole Horsepower legacy AT THAT TIME. Or something like that -
I do believe - maybe I'm wrong - that garage had to resign from the cabinet. He was in disgrace - caught shagging the secretary doing a load of nose-up. Now the party have decided his career can be relaunched. So he's been moved from the backbenches once again - interesting to see if he'll make prime minister

I'm not raving in the UK every weekend so what do I know

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:21 pm
by sully_shanks
Shonky wrote:
and let's face it electronic music is all techno somewhere down the line.
except for house and garage

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:24 pm
by frebentos
numaestro wrote:interesting to see if he'll make prime minister
yes! Garage for PM.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:09 pm
by slothrop
I'd vote for it.