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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:41 pm
by dabwa
jus ordered my akai mpk49 and is arrivin tomorow mornin looks pretty dope from what i seen , think the mpc style pads are the same as the mpc500 got some pretty cool features for a midi conrtoller!
kontakt is a good software synth, not had any problems with it yet!
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:04 am
by ninjadog
ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing
is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:26 am
by sigmund floyd
i love my mpk49, but those pads are useless.....unless you program them to be program change buttons like i did
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:01 pm
by miretz
I'm getting the mpc 500 as my new travel companion
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:19 pm
by yellowhighlighter
ninjadog wrote:ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing
is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.
the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:11 pm
by hurlingdervish
yellowhighlighter wrote:ninjadog wrote:ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing
is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.
the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.
agree 120 percent
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:52 pm
by 3za
casio sk-5 ftw
keys and drum pads
8bit 1.4secs recording time
this thing does magic to your sounds to
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:14 am
by hurlingdervish
3za wrote:casio sk-5 ftw
keys and drum pads
8bit 1.4secs recording time
this thing does magic to your sounds to
ima go find some garage sales
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:55 am
by contakt321
yellowhighlighter wrote:ninjadog wrote:ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing
is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.
the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.
I disagree, not myth.
MPC Swing = moves some sounds forward, some back. Typically most other hardware and software simply moves notes back.
SP = I don't know why it swings so well, not sure about whats under the hood. I will say the new Ableton "Groove" version of the SP1200 swing at 54 and 58 doesn't sound like the actual SP1200 to me, but I have yet to do an A/B comparison. I probably will because I am a nut job.
You can however emulate swing, but there is something about the looseness of the midi clock, yet the lack of latency (or more accurately - the lack of variation in latency) that seems to be hard to match with software.
Much like the sound, you can use VSTs, bit crushers, saturators, lower the bit rate, but nothing has really matched it. There is something to say that I can always tell a hip-hop song made on an SP!200. The swing, the distinct ringing sound on the notes, and the inimitable filter can't be hidden.
All this being said, I own an MPC2000 and an SP1200 and will never get rid of them. However, my advice is software. There is no reason to get into hardware unless you want it for the sound, nostalgia or credibility with gear whores and old buffoons like me. Save your time and money and get going on software and focus on the music, not the tools.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:24 pm
by 808_sustained_bassdrum
i have a fully expanded Akai S950.
but it only has 8 polyphony so i use the individual outs and use it as a 12bit drum machine
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:20 pm
by hurlingdervish
people forget the most important aspect of hardware...
ITS FUN
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:31 pm
by 808_sustained_bassdrum
hurlingdervish wrote:people forget the most important aspect of Punctuation...
IT'S FUN
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:06 pm
by hurlingdervish
808_sustained_bassdrum wrote:hurlingdervish wrote:people forget the most important aspect of Punctuation...
IT'S FUN
im not going to waste my time with punctuation on a forum
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:20 pm
by contakt321
nowaysj wrote:I vote this as one of the top 3 worst threads I've read on DSF.
Seconded
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:57 am
by LURQ
Anyone running kontakt 3.5 beta? Opinions on it? Notice a performance increase?
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:10 pm
by ayonic
yellowhighlighter wrote:ninjadog wrote:ayonic wrote:mpc clock and swing
is what mpc users are after.not "phat sounds".
Someone finally mentioned the swing, I dont know of any software that can swing like the mpc does? Having said that it is way cheaper and easier to do it via software.
another myth with the swing.
the mpc series does a certain swing feature but again a lot has been confused. people think that the groove of certain records was down to the mpc. that was not the case. it was down to the producer. the reason that machines like the asr, sp1200 and mpc have such legendary status is because so many classic tracks were made on them.
pointing out the clock and swing were just a generalization on why producers like the mpc.im not like contakt's type to do A-B comparisons but it's only logical that you can't expect to set any track's swing to 60% and automatically believe you're gonna get the perfect drumtracks in the world.a lot of it will still always come down to shifting notes earlier or later, etc etc. what i was trying to focus on was that the best aspects of the mpc are in its
SEQUENCING abilities, which coincidentally involve the clock and swing.
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:02 pm
by Sharmaji
i had an akai s2000 for a few years. it was definitely NOT fun. chopping loops sans waveforms is a joyless experience.
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:35 pm
by deadly_habit
TeReKeTe wrote:i had an akai s2000 for a few years. it was definitely NOT fun. chopping loops sans waveforms is a joyless experience.
that's half the fun of working with breaks