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Do you mean efx in general or specifically lo fi efx? I have a Pioneer unit I use for outboard effects, and there is another efx unit I've spent a few years looking for for a more live kind of feel.

Oh, the super secret one?

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But not lofi, but all the fx are lofi. They're all kind of grainy and muddy.

Only super secret until I find one on eBay to buy

You checking the bay area? We're in separate markets, no?

As luck would have it, I may be able to talk about this sooner than I thought.

DO IT

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Anyway...

Wasnt sure wehre best to post this, prob heres as good as anywhere at the moment.

So, im thinking of setting up a 'commercial' studio, not for recording indy bands, but for dub/electronic/'edm' (shudder)

Thinking people might want the opportunity to bring stems/tracks down, fire through the desk, and use all the nice fx, either bouncing down to stereo, or getting the individual, processed stems.

Does anyone use real studios anymore? What would you potentially want from one? How much would people pay?

Just thinking out loud at this stage. Ive got a nice collection now, and with all the refurbishing they are all sounding mint.

Cheers

paradigm x wrote: im thinking of setting up a 'commercial' studio, not for recording indy bands, but for dub/electronic/'edm' (shudder)

Thinking people might want the opportunity to bring stems/tracks down, fire through the desk, and use all the nice fx, either bouncing down to stereo, or getting the individual, processed stems.

Does anyone use real studios anymore? What would you potentially want from one? How much would people pay?

Just thinking out loud at this stage. Ive got a nice collection now, and with all the refurbishing they are all sounding mint.

Cheers

Read something recently about Vibrate Studios, is that the sort of thing you had in mind? Think there is definitely a market for it.

Yeah, thats the sort of thing, but no computers, more dust, cheaper...

Mastering engineers are not exactly in a shortage so not bothered about that. Aiming at people who havent the space, time, money to go hardware, and or cant play it loud.

Well how are those people going to afford you? How are they making money? Are they making it through music? They will come into your studio to produce tracks? On gear they haven't used?

If you are detecting a hint of negativity, dismiss it. I'm just curious.

Depending on the cost of the service paradigm x is suggesting, I would give it a shot depending on the hardware available. If I could track some effects through vintage gear I cant afford to buy let alone pay to maintain and use some similar old hardware synths. Or hell even new stuff I cant afford...

I would try it and see how it worked for me. Also, if they price was nice on just mixing in a treated room with better monitors than I have...might be worth it. I would push the mix pretty far at home then take it in.

I would try it...it would have to come in around 50 dollars an hour for full access. A discounted first round and deals on bulk buying hours would help keep me around, assuming it I got what I was looking for out of it. Which would basically be pushing my sound beyond what I can do in my studio...which is subjective for everyone lol.

nowaysj wrote:DO IT

Ok, it's over. It's taken me more than a decade, but I've finally found one for a reasonable price;

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct99/a ... dsound.htm

wub wrote:

nowaysj wrote:DO IT

Ok, it's over. It's taken me more than a decade, but I've finally found one for a reasonable price;

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct99/a ... dsound.htm

Nice. Nice. Wish there were more FX units like this...

fragments wrote:

wub wrote:

nowaysj wrote:DO IT

Ok, it's over. It's taken me more than a decade, but I've finally found one for a reasonable price;

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct99/a ... dsound.htm

Nice. Nice. Wish there were more FX units like this...

Just need a Minibrute now, and have my live jamming rig...drum machine, efx unit and a synth

Haha, nice one wub. You love that Red Sound stuff.

Pretty pissed at the lack of proper spectral morphing plugins. Was fucking around with Kontakt's AET filter but it just amounts to a static FFT filter I think. Seems like the only path to quality sounding proper spectral morphing is Kyma.

Maybe once I sharpen up my DSP chops, I'll write a spectral morpher plugin. Would be dope to have something that works in real time, and has high resolution in both the time and frequency domains. Would be cool to be able to morph only part of the frequency spectrum too.

Good luck doing that without savagely raping the CPU though.

http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/s ... morph.html

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http://www.artificialaudio.com/productmenu/2

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Naw nowhere near the level of true spectral morph. Like the Amon Tobin Kyma shit sounds way different.

Spectron does something similar to Kontakt, just analyses the whole target file and turns that into a FFT filter. The other plug is just a spectral delay.

SunkLo wrote:The other plug is just a spectral delay.

It is not what you want, but imagine if you used it to achieve your desired result.

I pass though, not a fan of these types of sounds. They always just sound bad to me.

Yeah that's the issue. They're always poor resolution bubbly vocoder messes. But doing it right could yield some fantastic results. I'm not even really a fan of ISAM, it's not musical at all imo. But if more people got their hands on the technology I guarantee some more palatable results would emerge.