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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:25 am
by human?
Jolly Wailer wrote:Distal wrote:Trill Bass here in the dirty south has had 'Dj Lord' of Public Enemy as a part OF Trill Bass for a hot minute, and I know Mayhem (also in the durty) has worked w/KRS-ONE a lot as well.
yeah and KRS1 has stolen beats from hiphop producers without financial compensation here in the states.. happens alot really. high profile mc's, no matter how 'positive', are not the best look for the folks on the ground imo, there's a difference between people who look at studio sessions as somewhere to break ground musically and studio sessions as something to profit offa
i dont know the particulars of what you are talking, but KRS-One in it for the money!?!?!?!?!?
come on now
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:25 am
by plastician
I'm done talking on this topic now.
Anyone actually interested in hearing how the other tracks and other rappers decide to work out, just keep listening to my shows on rinse in the coming weeks and i'll play them as and when they get done.
Anyone not interested, just don't listen to them.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:29 am
by human?
Plastician wrote:I'm done talking on this topic now.
Anyone actually interested in hearing how the other tracks and other rappers decide to work out, just keep listening to my shows on rinse in the coming weeks and i'll play them as and when they get done.
Anyone not interested, just don't listen to them.
dude, dont watch none of the negativity, the VERY interested silent MAJORITY is looking forward to this whole thing
lol, and be sure to bang this one out in miami, everyone is gonna go nuts..
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:31 am
by jolly wailer
I knew a poster on a different forum who didn't get paid by him, NYC people too, and who had some other tales of beats not getting credited, tbh dude fell off a long time ago.. thats the beat game for ya!
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:33 am
by human?
Jolly Wailer wrote:I knew a poster on a different forum who didn't get paid by him, NYC people too, and who had some other tales of beats not getting credited, tbh dude fell off a long time ago.. thats the beat game for ya!
like i said, i dont know the particulars at all, and im sure dude has character & business flaws (we all do) but... implying KRS is in it for the money just isnt true. im sure money factors into his experience, but imho he has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt its not about the money.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:39 am
by jolly wailer
no no.. not saying that at all, what I am saying is that folks (producers) have to watch their shit... mc's and beat shopping is a strange biz - just gotta mind your production credits and not be blinded by stars.. just a general 'take heed' -
supremely interested by this all
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:41 am
by human?
Jolly Wailer wrote:no no.. not saying that at all, what I am saying is that folks (producers) have to watch their shit... mc's and beat shopping is a strange biz - just gotta mind your production credits and not be blinded by stars.. just a general 'take heed' -
supremely interested by this all
yeh, the music game is a strange biz in general lol...
def get your contracts right... then full speed ahead imho, spread the vibrations as far & wide as possible
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:00 am
by 8bit
i really wanted to get into this thread before the shitstorm
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:01 am
by antipode
Gimme that bass...
and don't try to run up
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:04 am
by 8bit
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:24 am
by jolly wailer
no disrespect to all straight shooting emcees. put a donk on it. bacon. llamas.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:26 am
by 8bit
OH SHIT!
Just found the music video for snoop dogg millionaire!!!!
reallll
ahahaha so jokes
50 cent's skank is tooo much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:47 am
by kizza2435
Abs wrote:yeah i'd like to see what dre has to say about dubstep, and obviously i'd like to see him make some aswell.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:48 am
by yong
wow, they made a video that fast???
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:01 am
by aftee
Jolly Wailer wrote:I knew a poster on a different forum who didn't get paid by him, NYC people too, and who had some other tales of beats not getting credited, tbh dude fell off a long time ago.. thats the beat game for ya!
the hip hop game is dirty as hell...most of the hip hop producers people love and know are buying beats cheap from dudes down low and just re-selling them..hip hop at a mainstream level is more or less about cashing in off of a name
I can't define what dubstep is but I think overall it's just focusing on the music...To be honest I don't like that snoop track at all and it's something I'll never listen to again, and I wouldn't EVER dream of throwing that in a set. I'm not saying that hip hop and dubstep couldn't be a sick collab because I know it can...I'm setting up some things with some underground rappers in NY as is to get on some dubstep tracks....but I just think like everyone else said, snoop & chase went at this at the completely wrong angle, and wild animals did nothing more but possibly chop the beat up and arrange it in 16-8-16-8-16-8...
I don't think a dubstep-rap collab should be written as a hip hop track....get a verse, let thebeat play...verse..beat play..I think that's the best way to go about it, and getting an exclusive beat made although snoop probably just heard this one and chased after it (non pun intended)
Hip hop and dubstep can DEFINITELY be put together to make some fire stuff, I've heard it before. However this was gone about alllll the wrong way and seemed like it was done fast just to get the hype out..maybe if snoop is really feeling the dubstep he'll get something exclusively made but that isn't how it works in the hip hop world either...
Most people don't sit down in a studio and produce a track for one specific dude, they say here take your pick. With dubstep it seems tracks get made then released..Somebody with a set of un-released hip hop vibes just needs to approach the man and make sure it's done right, leave "wild animals" out of it unless you're getting Murs on a dubstep track...I'd pay for that with the money I don't have.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:24 am
by jonnyrebel
human? wrote:Plastician wrote:I'm done talking on this topic now.
Anyone actually interested in hearing how the other tracks and other rappers decide to work out, just keep listening to my shows on rinse in the coming weeks and i'll play them as and when they get done.
Anyone not interested, just don't listen to them.
dude, dont watch none of the negativity, the VERY interested silent MAJORITY is looking forward to this whole thing
lol, and be sure to bang this one out in miami, everyone is gonna go nuts..
agreed
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:23 am
by d-code
Plastician wrote:Anyone not interested, just don't listen to them.
LOVE IT.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:35 am
by neon-dubz
This was actually the best thread i have ever read in my life.
i will now pore over any thread over 20 pages.
i'm almost sad it's come to an end.
Thankyou Dubstep forum.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:07 am
by hera
human? wrote:Plastician wrote:I'm done talking on this topic now.
Anyone actually interested in hearing how the other tracks and other rappers decide to work out, just keep listening to my shows on rinse in the coming weeks and i'll play them as and when they get done.
Anyone not interested, just don't listen to them.
dude, dont watch none of the negativity, the VERY interested silent MAJORITY is looking forward to this whole thing
lol, and be sure to bang this one out in miami, everyone is gonna go nuts..
word
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:22 am
by q_steppa
i really wna see what this does for the scene. wud like to hear chamillionaire, rick ross, bonethugs over some dubs