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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:36 pm
by tripwire22
tripwire22 wrote:i really hate to ask for help but im obssesed with this Tunnidge track and its a very distance like sound on chestplate of course but still


Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:38 pm
by kejk
tripwire22 wrote:
tripwire22 wrote:i really hate to ask for help but im obssesed with this Tunnidge track and its a very distance like sound on chestplate of course but still

We've seen the post. If you don't get any replies I guess it means we are clueless.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:49 pm
by tripwire22
true

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:11 pm
by metallicker
Can anyone help me with how to make the sound on Funtcase's Wizard Sleeve just after the drop at 26 seconds.

It is the sound with the pitch bend I'm after. Sounds like they've routing an ADSR filter to the pitch of the oscillators which are playing two detuned saws but I just can't get that sound! Seems like he's also majorly detuned them after the sound has sustained for a little while but not sure.

Tips on the whole sound would be good!

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:27 pm
by legend4ry
tripwire22 wrote:true

Yeah, ive bumped my one and only question on this thread like 4 times, no ones said jack :(

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:41 pm
by Isturite
kejk wrote:Not every modulation source is an LFO.

As for your question - try some basic square waves with white noise. And fuck with the noise. Modulate the pitch. Keep listening to the lead and find out what's missing in yours.
I do plenty of FM synthesis and sound design, I'm aware that modulation is anything that "modulates"... I'll try out the white noise, but how is modulating the pitch going to help me?... The issue here is that I've been listening... very carefully!... and I even have a really good method of reverse engineering sounds, which is why i've got close to the basic timbre... but why is there's so much more epic? I mean it has epic written all over it when you hear it... mine just sounds like a hi pitched phazy square wave patch, more like a dr. dre gangsta lead type of sound

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:37 am
by kejk
Isturite wrote:
kejk wrote:Not every modulation source is an LFO.

As for your question - try some basic square waves with white noise. And fuck with the noise. Modulate the pitch. Keep listening to the lead and find out what's missing in yours.
I do plenty of FM synthesis and sound design, I'm aware that modulation is anything that "modulates"... I'll try out the white noise, but how is modulating the pitch going to help me?... The issue here is that I've been listening... very carefully!... and I even have a really good method of reverse engineering sounds, which is why i've got close to the basic timbre... but why is there's so much more epic? I mean it has epic written all over it when you hear it... mine just sounds like a hi pitched phazy square wave patch, more like a dr. dre gangsta lead type of sound
right, gave it another listen.

There's a 320ms delay on the sound. Some of the notes are very short, and keep interrupting eachother, on the same pitch, it's just to trigger a new amplitude envelope.

Keep at it. Don't forget inserting or sending some slight reverberberation.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:52 pm
by x902
shekel this is not our planet

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:33 pm
by Neuroscience

To be honest I've been trying this one for a while....can't nail it. I've tried bit crunch (to a very slight degree) and minor settings in camelphat. Dimension expander, slight large-room verb...you name it..


anybody got any ideas?
part after the drop at :28

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:46 am
by mindcontrol
how to garage artist arrange their drums/percussion? reason 5 preferably

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:46 pm
by Isturite
kejk wrote: There's a 320ms delay on the sound. Some of the notes are very short, and keep interrupting eachother, on the same pitch, it's just to trigger a new amplitude envelope.

Keep at it. Don't forget inserting or sending some slight reverberberation.
Hmmm, I will definately try out the delay... really, thanks for the reply man! Most people just tell me "try square waves"... 0_0... I've been beating myself up over this sound... heard it one more time in a dream theater song too, wouldn't surprise me though... Jordan rudess is a beast on a synth

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:50 pm
by hutyluty
The main synth in Lion VIP please :D

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:37 pm
by kejk
hutyluty wrote:The main synth in Lion VIP please :D
It's a reese bass.

Layer a couple of saw waves and detunes them. Add saturation and distortion. Modulate subtle things before LFO>cutoff to give it some life.

EDIT: Also resample the bass. This gives it that typical "effect" that if you play a higher pitch, the modulation will be faster.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:51 pm
by hutyluty
Thankyou! every tune i mae is gonna have this in from now on, just this, no drums or nowt

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:03 pm
by kejk
hutyluty wrote:Thankyou! every tune i mae is gonna have this in from now on, just this, no drums or nowt
It's a great sound, but it has been around for over a decade. Listen to some DnB, reese basses have been used a lot. And I mean a LOT.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:42 pm
by Genevieve
Don't forget to split your frequencies, either. One of the bands also has 1 ms of delay on it to give it that 'biting growl'.

I once got pretty much the exact same sound while just messing around with a split reese, chorus, distortion and 1 ms of delay.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:54 pm
by kejk
Genevieve wrote:Don't forget to split your frequencies, either. One of the bands also has 1 ms of delay on it to give it that 'biting growl'.

I once got pretty much the exact same sound while just messing around with a split reese, chorus, distortion and 1 ms of delay.
Actually, the detuned saws should give plenty of phasing... I wouldn't bother with another delay on top of it - or it will sound rather metallic or something


TAPE SATURATION is where the money's at!

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:02 pm
by Genevieve
kejk wrote: or it will sound rather metallic or something
It does. ;) There's 1 ms of delay on at least one of the bands. It's clearly ringing, I can hear it as I'm typing the reply.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:54 pm
by StarHopper


The squishy robot Bass that drops at 1:45.

Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:22 pm
by jackquinox
mindcontrol wrote:how to garage artist arrange their drums/percussion? reason 5 preferably
You can either try adjusting or using the pattern on this website or I have basically just about copied the drum loop from colourgirl - Joyrider which would be the following:

The basics of which would be load up a Kick / Snare (rim shot/ clap / whatever) / closed hat / hi-hat / shaker

Put it on a 32 step sequencer and place the following:

kick on - 1 - 8- 17 - 24- 27
Snare on - 5 - 13 - 21 - 29
Closed Hat - 3 - 7 - 11 - 15 - 19 - 23 - 27 - 31
Open Hat - Soft on 14 - Medium on 31
Shaker - 1 - 3 -5 -7 - 8- 9- 11 - 13 - 15 etc

Copy the pattern to the sequencer and fire up the regroove mixer and open up an MPC shuffle and experiment with which one gives you the most interesting swing. hope this helps this is of course fairly basic you can add alot more interesting percussive hits and clicks in between beats just to get you started.