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smogglymoff95 wrote:Been trying to make a decent sounding Reese for a while now, this is the best I could come up with so far. Any helpful tips on how to improve from here would be appreciated Soundcloud

care to share how you did this?

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Sure Its kind of a long patch but i'll do my best to explain it -
I created It using Thor - mono legato mode and portamento at 50. Starting off with 2 detuned saw waves (detuned 13 each way), and a slightly detuned multi oscillator (again as a saw wave). I added all three oscillators to both filters separately, with osc1,2&3 going through a notch filter and the shaper set to wrap mode with full drive, and a separate set of osc1,2&3 going through a band pass filter. Then in the bus routing section, I then routed LFO 1 to filter one freq. by 80. LFO 2 to filter 2 freq by 97.

I then put CV input 1 to the saw oscillators pitch by 18, leaving out the multi oscillator (i'll get onto this soon).

Then added a stereo imager to the chain so I could separate the high and low frequencies and distort them separately. I used Scream 4's distortion setting to the lows, as well as adding body set at E with Res at half and scale at full. I added and equalizer and took out the frequencies at around 78Hz so it wouldn't interfere with the sub. I then finished the lows by compressing them and running them into on channel in the mixer (within the combinator).

The high end I distorted with two scream 4 units - one set at warp mode, with body switched on and set to A, with res at just below half, scale at full and auto. The second one has almost the same parameters, except this time the distortion mode is set to tape, and the body type to C. Both screams have damage control at half. I then took out some frequencies at 2kHz and 16kHz.

Next I split the high end with a spider device, and ran one through D-11 foldback device, with amount at a quarter, with the foldback on what looks like a square to me, before running it back into another spider device, so I had a "clean" signal and a distorted one running into it. Last thing i did to the highs was slightly remove some of the mids with an equalizer, as well as remove some frequencies at 5 & 10 kHz by around 6 db. I then added the high end to a second channel in the mixer. (almost done )

I took the output of the mixer into two equalizers, taking the the very lows and taking about 6db out of the 1.2 to 2.5 kHz range. Again I took another 6 db out of around 625Hz and 18db around 2.3-2.4kHz. I then added the *tiniest amount of reverb - just on the first notch on the dry/wet knob, on the Iron House preset.
I then added a vocoder on equalizer and 4 band mode before running it through the final equaliser taking out the very high end, and about 4 db's from 2.5kHz. I then added a compressor and a maximizer to finish of the sound.
I then added an ecf42 filter on Band pass mode, with the fequency just over one quarter. I routed LFO2 from the back of the Thor device to the frequency CV of the ecf42. Then I added a malstrom device (not connected to anything) and routed Mod A from malstrom to CV input one of the thor device.

Wow that took a while to explain I hope this has been helpful, and If i have missed anything or you'd like a better explanation of certain areas please ask and I'll try my best to give you one *phew

Hircine wrote:to get that quick reese sweep (v.g Biome), play a note, pitchbend an octave and sweep a high pass filter with high resonance (q) and a notch/BR filter at the same time. Then, bounce it. Send it to a big reverb aux, resample. Now you have a reverberated reese sweep and a regular reese sweep. Cut the tail of the reverberated sound, reverse it, scoop out the mids a bit, low pass slightly to take out any harshness and layer ir over the original reese sweep. Bam, now your reese will sound like a super massive black hole sucking planet earth into a black oblivion.

Did some sweet sound design using some of this:

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lol. weirdest sound i have ever made (probably not even classified as a reese )

hubsahubsa wrote:Soundcloud

lol. weirdest sound i have ever made (probably not even classified as a reese )

Pretty sure that just ripped my tweeters

How's this? Heavily Filtered and EQ'd.

I really want to make it more wet and bassy sounding. I like the crunch, but I want something with a little more lowmid end reese crunch. Any tips for that?

A few notes lower than this will have the reese sounding horrible.

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dotcurrency wrote:How's this? Heavily Filtered and EQ'd.

I really want to make it more wet and bassy sounding. I like the crunch, but I want something with a little more lowmid end reese crunch. Any tips for that?

A few notes lower than this will have the reese sounding horrible.

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i like it a lot.. can i get those drums?

neonmansion wrote:

dotcurrency wrote:How's this? Heavily Filtered and EQ'd.

I really want to make it more wet and bassy sounding. I like the crunch, but I want something with a little more lowmid end reese crunch. Any tips for that?

A few notes lower than this will have the reese sounding horrible.

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i like it a lot.. can i get those drums?

Sure, the kick is basic punchy eq'd kick nothing really special at all.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0szmRfVXlWm

That's my snare. I heavily compressed and EQ'd it and layered with a bit of midrange sine.

Incase you don't see it, the download is at the bottom of the green window "Download as MP3, Ogg, FLAC, or WAV."

Still looking for help on above post guys, here's something else!

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In response to your other post, if you want more low/mids you're going to have to add them in the synthesis stage, FX are probably only going to add modulation to your mids and distortion/exciters will only add high end.

As for "wetter" try playing with phasing and unison on the mids and highs, also the right reverb can help too.

New clip sounds cool

mthrfnk wrote:In response to your other post, if you want more low/mids you're going to have to add them in the synthesis stage, FX are probably only going to add modulation to your mids and distortion/exciters will only add high end.

As for "wetter" try playing with phasing and unison on the mids and highs, also the right reverb can help too.

New clip sounds cool

Thanks for the help! Could you be more specific? I made the reese in massive, obviously to decrease distortion I'll have to take off things like ohmnicide and FL overdrive (just a note to self), but for low ends, during synthesis, what do I want to change really?

Basic 2 saw osc detuned 0.14 and -0.14, goes serial into double notch then into bandpass (where cutoff modulation happens)

dotcurrency wrote:

mthrfnk wrote:In response to your other post, if you want more low/mids you're going to have to add them in the synthesis stage, FX are probably only going to add modulation to your mids and distortion/exciters will only add high end.

As for "wetter" try playing with phasing and unison on the mids and highs, also the right reverb can help too.

New clip sounds cool

Thanks for the help! Could you be more specific? I made the reese in massive, obviously to decrease distortion I'll have to take off things like ohmnicide and FL overdrive (just a note to self), but for low ends, during synthesis, what do I want to change really?

Basic 2 saw osc detuned 0.14 and -0.14, goes serial into double notch then into bandpass (where cutoff modulation happens)

Well for my reeses I like to have a seperate sub for sure. Sometimes I even try to blend in nice saw bass (like a electro house style one) for low/mids - then glue the shit out of it all with a compressor after EQing stuff to sit nicely.

From what I've found one patch isn't going to make you awesome sound, you're better off blending sounds, using resampling and granulization to help bind everything if needed.

As for Massive - I haven't used it in a while, recently been using other synths to get really frequency heavy sounds then modulating like I described above instead of trying to make a complex Massive patch with LFO's controlling loads of stuff.

I also filter everything outside the synth - been using BiFilter 2 & EQUA 87 since I got them free with Comuter Music and also I use WOW and FL's standard EQ's. Although it really doesn't matter what filters and EQ's you're using as long as you know how to use them.

Also one tip for distortion - instead of say having one Ohmicide at like 10% wet, try maybe 2 or 3 Ohmicides stacked at like 1/2% wet with slightly different settings. Also like you I normally stack in a Blood Overdrive somewhere.

Reverb is good too, I normally have a small room reverb on a send channel for the whole reese and have another tighter reverb just for the highs which I bitcrush and stereo widen to get a nice crunchy wide top end.

mthrfnk wrote:

dotcurrency wrote:

mthrfnk wrote:In response to your other post, if you want more low/mids you're going to have to add them in the synthesis stage, FX are probably only going to add modulation to your mids and distortion/exciters will only add high end.

As for "wetter" try playing with phasing and unison on the mids and highs, also the right reverb can help too.

New clip sounds cool

Thanks for the help! Could you be more specific? I made the reese in massive, obviously to decrease distortion I'll have to take off things like ohmnicide and FL overdrive (just a note to self), but for low ends, during synthesis, what do I want to change really?

Basic 2 saw osc detuned 0.14 and -0.14, goes serial into double notch then into bandpass (where cutoff modulation happens)

Well for my reeses I like to have a seperate sub for sure. Sometimes I even try to blend in nice saw bass (like a electro house style one) for low/mids - then glue the shit out of it all with a compressor after EQing stuff to sit nicely.

From what I've found one patch isn't going to make you awesome sound, you're better off blending sounds, using resampling and granulization to help bind everything if needed.

As for Massive - I haven't used it in a while, recently been using other synths to get really frequency heavy sounds then modulating like I described above instead of trying to make a complex Massive patch with LFO's controlling loads of stuff.

I also filter everything outside the synth - been using BiFilter 2 & EQUA 87 since I got them free with Comuter Music and also I use WOW and FL's standard EQ's. Although it really doesn't matter what filters and EQ's you're using as long as you know how to use them.

Also one tip for distortion - instead of say having one Ohmicide at like 10% wet, try maybe 2 or 3 Ohmicides stacked at like 1/2% wet with slightly different settings. Also like you I normally stack in a Blood Overdrive somewhere.

Reverb is good too, I normally have a small room reverb on a send channel for the whole reese and have another tighter reverb just for the highs which I bitcrush and stereo widen to get a nice crunchy wide top end.

Again, thanks a lot for the insight man!

I'm getting closer to the desired sound. I know it's done in Malstrom in Reason, but I'm really trying to get a reese, not exactly like KOAN Sound, but I want the movement, muddyness, crunch, and depth. If I could get a reese that modulates as well as theirs, my god what I would do.

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One tip for emulating KOAN sound, they layer white noise in with their reeses, most of the time it modulates he same as the reese does volume/pitch wise. On their new EP it was more noticeable than usual - on some tracks I can easily just zone into the white noise and ignore everything else.

Been wanting to have a go at making a reese for a while now and decided that a evolving, wet sounding reese would fit good to my track. Made a sound in massive and resampled a little, this is what came out of it.

Thoughts?

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Heres a WIP of mine. All the sounds are reeses

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TeRRo wrote:Been wanting to have a go at making a reese for a while now and decided that a evolving, wet sounding reese would fit good to my track. Made a sound in massive and resampled a little, this is what came out of it.

Thoughts?

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sounds good. Maybe let a little more low end as it progresses?

Fowles wrote:Heres a WIP of mine. All the sounds are reeses

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I really like this reese! How'd you make & automate it to get that "panning open to close" sound?

EDIT: To be more specific, the first reese that plays. then the one around 0.03-0.04 etc

Fowles: ty for the feedback, spot on. I really like your reeses too, crisp production on them

dotcurrency wrote: I really like this reese! How'd you make & automate it to get that "panning open to close" sound?

EDIT: To be more specific, the first reese that plays. then the one around 0.03-0.04 etc

i made a reese in massive. The ""panning open to close" sound" comes from putting the reese through a highpass filter w resonance. The begining of the note starts with the highpass filter's cutoff around half way, and then it slowely moves to the left, letting in the low freq.

it can sound great depending on what reese you put through the highpass filter.

TeRRo wrote:Fowles: ty for the feedback, spot on. I really like your reeses too, crisp production on them

thanks dude. what synth are you using? they remind me koan's reeses in introvert.