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kavaxofficial wrote:you can create really filthy sounds using moderntalking
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good recreation. sounds almost the exact same as that "Kill The Noise' guy s bassline. would you mind elaborating on how you achieved this sound?

Spot on!

That was gold. Loved it.

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this is just a rough idea but what does everyone think?

Did this tutorial yesterday, check it out if you want to know some new techniques for making this sound in FM8, not covered in any other tutorials (that I know of).

Go here for full tutorial, and downloads my my patches:
http://www.nukage.net/2012/10/06/nukage ... -tutorial/

Why do all other growl sounds that aren't the one used in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites suck so much compared to it? They sound dull and amateur, even the latest Skrillex tracks suck compared to the one used on that track.
I think we will never know how in hell he came up with that sound. No one is getting even close.

Probably because they've moved on to other sounds.

hookey wrote:Why do all other growl sounds that aren't the one used in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites suck so much compared to it? They sound dull and amateur, even the latest Skrillex tracks suck compared to the one used on that track.
I think we will never know how in hell he came up with that sound. No one is getting even close.

Because that track's main focus was actually centered around his growl bass.

Hostile Invasion wrote:

hookey wrote:Why do all other growl sounds that aren't the one used in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites suck so much compared to it? They sound dull and amateur, even the latest Skrillex tracks suck compared to the one used on that track.
I think we will never know how in hell he came up with that sound. No one is getting even close.

Because that track's main focus was actually centered around his growl bass.

This. The growl bass is right at the front of the mix with very little else going on. Even the drums are really low in the mix and sound pretty bad (muffled).

puzzlefactory wrote:

Hostile Invasion wrote:

hookey wrote:Why do all other growl sounds that aren't the one used in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites suck so much compared to it? They sound dull and amateur, even the latest Skrillex tracks suck compared to the one used on that track.
I think we will never know how in hell he came up with that sound. No one is getting even close.

Because that track's main focus was actually centered around his growl bass.

This. The growl bass is right at the front of the mix with very little else going on. Even the drums are really low in the mix and sound pretty bad (muffled).

That's the way he made his drums back then. The growl doesnt sound great only because it's at the front of the mix, it's a great growl. No one has made a bigger and better sounding growl imo

Hostile Invasion wrote:

hookey wrote:Why do all other growl sounds that aren't the one used in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites suck so much compared to it? They sound dull and amateur, even the latest Skrillex tracks suck compared to the one used on that track.
I think we will never know how in hell he came up with that sound. No one is getting even close.

Because that track's main focus was actually centered around his growl bass.

lol, all brostep is centered around the growl sound. That comment doesn't make sense. Im talkign about the actual sound. It's the best growl sound ever, no one even comes close. Compare that sound to his latest stuff and it's cringeworthy.

Electric_Head wrote:Probably because they've moved on to other sounds.

'they' who?

Skrillex hasn't moved anywhere, it's still all about the growl (check his latest tune here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkeZ2kwpkM

Let's just focus on the growl sound (which is what the thread is about) and not about the track itself, if its dnb and all that. Just the sound.

Compare THAT growl to this growl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkWFLOf2wIU&hd=1

The first growl sounds like straight Modern Talking in Massive, it's something you could recreate. Now, try it with the second growl, and you'll fail. It's another league and seems like he is putting less and less effort since that EP. The rest of the artist on the genre never came any close to this.

It doesn't seem like he "moved to a different sound", it just seems like he can't get something as awesome again (remember he said he lost ALL his patches when he lost his laptop in a gig) so he is using more basic sounding growls and filling the gaps with annoying high pitched noises.

hookey wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:Probably because they've moved on to other sounds.

'they' who?

Skrillex hasn't moved anywhere, it's still all about the growl (check his latest tune here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkeZ2kwpkM

Let's just focus on the growl sound (which is what the thread is about) and not about the track itself, if its dnb and all that. Just the sound.

Compare THAT growl to this growl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkWFLOf2wIU&hd=1

The first growl sounds like straight Modern Talking in Massive, it's something you could recreate. Now, try it with the second growl, and you'll fail. It's another league and seems like he is putting less and less effort since that EP. The rest of the artist on the genre never came any close to this.

It doesn't seem like he "moved to a different sound", it just seems like he can't get something as awesome again (remember he said he lost ALL his patches when he lost his laptop in a gig) so he is using more basic sounding growls and filling the gaps with annoying high pitched noises.

Yeah I was going to say the same thing...he got his laptop stolen/lost in April 2011....so I'm pretty sure he lost all those patches he made/forgot how to make them again exactly.

I love how everyone focuses on scary monsters, the Scatta bassline was far more impressive. It's probably just a highly evolved reese with a shitload of layering. Something I've been doing lately in FM8 is making a growl, then adding an extra operator (usually a sine wave), setting it to modulate the 2 or 3 other active operators and automating the out value of said operator. I'm assuming that's how skrillex gets more than 1 vowel sound out of a patch (maybe at least).

I'll upload something once I've sussed it out a bit more.

i would say the SMANS moooo growl is the best he's ever made, i dont like his new stuff at all. I remember when i was so excited when a new skrillex track came out, noones new tracks excite me anymore. what is happening. The last good skrillex song was equinox.

RandoRando wrote:i would say the SMANS moooo growl is the best he's ever made, i dont like his new stuff at all. I remember when i was so excited when a new skrillex track came out, noones new tracks excite me anymore. what is happening. The last good skrillex song was equinox.

I wish he would make some more tracks more like the remixes he did La Roux/the sexy lady one.
So chaotic, so raw, but still, the energy in those tracks is just so... powerful imo

blinkesko wrote:

RandoRando wrote:i would say the SMANS moooo growl is the best he's ever made, i dont like his new stuff at all.

San Diego, died this way, right in, there's a few floating out there that havent been released or are remixes, I'd actually suggest looking into Zomboy's latest ep (dead symphonic). Some of the songs on there may as well have been made by skrillex, and they're pretty top notch. Hoedown, Nuclear and City 2 City are my faves. I know people give him shit cos he's sampled popular artists in the past but his music is amazing. Also some of the growls on that EP are as good as skrillex growls, can't compare to scary monsters though.

Sure_Fire wrote:

blinkesko wrote:

RandoRando wrote:i would say the SMANS moooo growl is the best he's ever made, i dont like his new stuff at all.

San Diego, died this way, right in, there's a few floating out there that havent been released or are remixes, I'd actually suggest looking into Zomboy's latest ep (dead symphonic). Some of the songs on there may as well have been made by skrillex, and they're pretty top notch. Hoedown, Nuclear and City 2 City are my faves. I know people give him shit cos he's sampled popular artists in the past but his music is amazing. Also some of the growls on that EP are as good as skrillex growls, can't compare to scary monsters though.

thats because he samples skrillex.....

ehbrums1 wrote:

Sure_Fire wrote:

blinkesko wrote:

RandoRando wrote:i would say the SMANS moooo growl is the best he's ever made, i dont like his new stuff at all.

San Diego, died this way, right in, there's a few floating out there that havent been released or are remixes, I'd actually suggest looking into Zomboy's latest ep (dead symphonic). Some of the songs on there may as well have been made by skrillex, and they're pretty top notch. Hoedown, Nuclear and City 2 City are my faves. I know people give him shit cos he's sampled popular artists in the past but his music is amazing. Also some of the growls on that EP are as good as skrillex growls, can't compare to scary monsters though.

thats because he samples skrillex.....

And that makes his music sound worse? I don't give a shit if he samples Skrillex or not, the music sounds good so I listen to it.

I ended up having a go a the scary monsters drop, sounds alright I guess. Could use some more time and effort though

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Sure_Fire wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:

Sure_Fire wrote:

blinkesko wrote:

RandoRando wrote:i would say the SMANS moooo growl is the best he's ever made, i dont like his new stuff at all.

San Diego, died this way, right in, there's a few floating out there that havent been released or are remixes, I'd actually suggest looking into Zomboy's latest ep (dead symphonic). Some of the songs on there may as well have been made by skrillex, and they're pretty top notch. Hoedown, Nuclear and City 2 City are my faves. I know people give him shit cos he's sampled popular artists in the past but his music is amazing. Also some of the growls on that EP are as good as skrillex growls, can't compare to scary monsters though.

thats because he samples skrillex.....

And that makes his music sound worse? I don't give a shit if he samples Skrillex or not, the music sounds good so I listen to it.

no you fuckwad his growls sound like skrillexs because they are skrillys.....