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cmgoodman1226 wrote:

blinkesko wrote:

epochalypso wrote:

Living_Tragedy wrote:Great speakers help but they aren't a must have.

Yes they are

Tell that to KOAN Sound, skrillex, Kill the noise etc....

I highly doubt koan sound doesn't have halfway decent monitors at this point. And if they didn't when they first started, that would explain why their older stuff sounded so drab and poorly mixed. I also highly doubt that skrillex didn't at least have a pair of good headphones when he started mixing.

I'm sure it's "possible" to mix on shitty speakers; but a decent pair of monitors is worth so much more than buying a thousand different synths and plugins to try to get "that sound". The fact is unless you know exactly where your speakers fall short, (and crappy speakers fall short in just about every area), you have no real frame of reference on what it's going to sound like on different systems. You might have everything sounding perfect on your speakers, and then the mix just falls apart as soon as you put it on in your car.

Mr 50 wrote:Workflow tips:

Save a blank midi/audio channel on your sequencer with color coded clips that mark different sections of the track - intro, 1st 16, breakdown etc.
Save this to your project template.
Whenever you start a new track you'll have a visual reminder and 'encourager' to think about the track as a whole, rather than getting stuck in loop hell.
Increased my productivity ten fold and is now hard wired to how I work. Beforehand it took me flipping ages to complete a track.


Stuck on a loop?
Copy it, then force yourself to replace 2 instruments and change 3 other elements [insert as many or as few changes as you feel your tracks need].
Repeat x 4
Listen back and you'll have a stack of ideas, may even have the track pretty much done.

wub wrote:What would you say is then?

Sinestepper wrote:Instead of spending years getting to know your wank headphones you could spend a few weeks getting to know your entry level monitors.

Burgeamon wrote:

cmgoodman1226 wrote:

blinkesko wrote:

epochalypso wrote:

Living_Tragedy wrote:Great speakers help but they aren't a must have.

Yes they are

Tell that to KOAN Sound, skrillex, Kill the noise etc....

I highly doubt koan sound doesn't have halfway decent monitors at this point. And if they didn't when they first started, that would explain why their older stuff sounded so drab and poorly mixed. I also highly doubt that skrillex didn't at least have a pair of good headphones when he started mixing.

I'm sure it's "possible" to mix on shitty speakers; but a decent pair of monitors is worth so much more than buying a thousand different synths and plugins to try to get "that sound". The fact is unless you know exactly where your speakers fall short, (and crappy speakers fall short in just about every area), you have no real frame of reference on what it's going to sound like on different systems. You might have everything sounding perfect on your speakers, and then the mix just falls apart as soon as you put it on in your car.

KOAN still mixdown on the same pair of shit £15 headphones that they started with a few years ago. They just know that pair of headphones ridiculously well. New EP in a few weeks and we're releasing some remixes of their earlier tunes that we signed just after.

goldengrime wrote:

Burgeamon wrote:KOAN still mixdown on the same pair of shit £15 headphones that they started with a few years ago. They just know that pair of headphones ridiculously well. New EP in a few weeks and we're releasing some remixes of their earlier tunes that we signed just after.

Holy fuck!! I can't believe you even believe half the shit that gets said about mixing on headphones and shit monitors, I cant tell you for sure about their setup but they for sure are not mixing down there own stuff anymore... Why do you think skrillex, alvin risk, koan sound, kill the noise all have the same 'sound'. I'm talking about the engineering here nothing to do with the tracks. And just like when 501 had that track on owlsa did you not notice the difference in sound? We could argue that all this is done by the mastering engineer but either way they still all sound the same.

KOAN Sound wrote:

goldengrime wrote:

Burgeamon wrote:KOAN still mixdown on the same pair of shit £15 headphones that they started with a few years ago. They just know that pair of headphones ridiculously well. New EP in a few weeks and we're releasing some remixes of their earlier tunes that we signed just after.

Holy fuck!! I can't believe you even believe half the shit that gets said about mixing on headphones and shit monitors, I cant tell you for sure about their setup but they for sure are not mixing down there own stuff anymore... Why do you think skrillex, alvin risk, koan sound, kill the noise all have the same 'sound'. I'm talking about the engineering here nothing to do with the tracks. And just like when 501 had that track on owlsa did you not notice the difference in sound? We could argue that all this is done by the mastering engineer but either way they still all sound the same.

lol

KOAN Sound wrote:

goldengrime wrote:

Burgeamon wrote:KOAN still mixdown on the same pair of shit £15 headphones that they started with a few years ago. They just know that pair of headphones ridiculously well. New EP in a few weeks and we're releasing some remixes of their earlier tunes that we signed just after.

Holy fuck!! I can't believe you even believe half the shit that gets said about mixing on headphones and shit monitors, I cant tell you for sure about their setup but they for sure are not mixing down there own stuff anymore... Why do you think skrillex, alvin risk, koan sound, kill the noise all have the same 'sound'. I'm talking about the engineering here nothing to do with the tracks. And just like when 501 had that track on owlsa did you not notice the difference in sound? We could argue that all this is done by the mastering engineer but either way they still all sound the same.

lol

glottis5 wrote:Here's a tip: put a pinch of sage in your boots and all day long a spicy scent is your reward.

Fauster wrote:

glottis5 wrote:Here's a tip: put a pinch of sage in your boots and all day long a spicy scent is your reward.

dafuq?

glottis5 wrote:Here's a tip: put a pinch of sage in your boots and all day long a spicy scent is your reward.