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FSTZ wrote:sure the lizard people stuff is far fetched, but his points about love and understanding being the ultimate key to happiness & success are more than valid

Raize wrote:

jduffy wrote: Look at Tupac, Micheal Jackson, both killed.

Tupac and MJ? An order controlling the world concerns themselves with Tupac and MJ? Pull the other one mate.

I used to think religion was pointless, but if a lack of religion leads to a load of impressionistic young teens believing in any old crap then I'm all for us going back to the Crusades.

Neurotik wrote:

SwiftGuyver wrote:david icke has always made some decent points...

he just lets himself down when he starts talking about lizard people...

I agree. What he was saying on social conformity, condemnation for the sheep that dares stray from the flock, and the overall state of freedom and society as a whole today is totally right imo.

When he starts talking about the bloodlines and royal control consipracy i sort of felt abit put off. Not because the ideas are challenging to what i percieve to be reality but just completely illogical nonesense. I mean, i could sit here and make up the most random nonsensical bullshit ever and then when questioned say "how do you know? you're just too scared of being different", religious fundamentalists and cults have been using this method for as long as i can see. Certain people love to create this dramatic world around themselves to feel part of something bigger, even to give themselves a sense of higher enlightenment above others i guess. Don't get me wrong though, this guy really seems like intelligent bloke with some great underlying principles and ideas that i think more people need to adapt and understand, but alot of it seems channeled in the wrong direction.

Well, that's what i think of Rusko anyways. I think David Icke seemed like a nice bloke .

alien pimp wrote:

FSTZ wrote:sure the lizard people stuff is far fetched, but his points about love and understanding being the ultimate key to happiness & success are more than valid

that's exactly whyto write him off as a complete twit is necessary

first of all because the valid points he makes are contaminated with the same rejection he gets for the reptilian mambo jumbo. and that's worse than if he'd shut up.
many people who now say we gotta take what's good from him used to know him as the reptilian guy who doesn't deserve a chance. but most of the peeps never made that step and probably never will. and i find that perfectly safe, if we can't make it without icke we're screwed anyway

second because if he has the mind to perceive the valid points he makes, then for sure all the shit he lays on top of that is deliberate, which casts a big shadow of doubt over his intentions.

Raize wrote:This thread is just one advert for why too much weed makes you completely and totally fucking retarded.

I mean, grown people, taking david icke seriously? What. The. Fuck.

FSTZ wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

FSTZ wrote:sure the lizard people stuff is far fetched, but his points about love and understanding being the ultimate key to happiness & success are more than valid

that's exactly whyto write him off as a complete twit is necessary

first of all because the valid points he makes are contaminated with the same rejection he gets for the reptilian mambo jumbo. and that's worse than if he'd shut up.
many people who now say we gotta take what's good from him used to know him as the reptilian guy who doesn't deserve a chance. but most of the peeps never made that step and probably never will. and i find that perfectly safe, if we can't make it without icke we're screwed anyway

second because if he has the mind to perceive the valid points he makes, then for sure all the shit he lays on top of that is deliberate, which casts a big shadow of doubt over his intentions.

you think he's some kinda disinformation plant??

Joe Muggs wrote:

hackman wrote:lol whatever, hardly makes him a supporter of racism

Well it does, if his work is used as justification by racist groups.

Surface_Tension wrote:

Joe Muggs wrote:

hackman wrote:lol whatever, hardly makes him a supporter of racism

Well it does, if his work is used as justification by racist groups.

I suppose that makes people who donned the Swastika 1000 years ago izan's as well then. Clearly they hated Jews.

Anyway, my point is that I don't think someone appropriating your thoughts for their cause makes your thoughts any less important, nor should it associate you with them. There are a lot of people who think the US Constitution means all sorts of shit. I don't think the people who wrote the Constitution necessarily thought like those assholes.

buckfaster wrote:It is a bit suspect that holocaust deniers and neo-izan/extreme-right figures are his booking agents for Canada, the US, and Europe.