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this is all interesting, but pretty obvious, and i dont see the point of it
it is probably just to subliminally enhance the movie by stimulating the subconcious with references to images/etc that are similar to teh theme of the movie, i.e the crosses in the jesus movie
or its just an inside joke
but the pineal one is fascinating, how the banister heads turn from circles to pinecones as she goes upstairs

im more interested in the symbolism in contact, red planet etc, you probably heard about that parson?

Parson wrote:that movie would take volumes of books to explain. the watchmen too.

yes, you're right. what about mulholland dr.? shyamalan movies are awesome too

interesting thread but tbh i didn't understand

Piston wrote:interesting thread but tbh i didn't understand

There are lots of squares, circles, and triangles in films.

This is becasuse Hollywood is run by freemasons.

There are lots of squares and circles in my biscuit tin as well, because that is also run by freemasons.

I understand.
I see it.
It's overwhelming.
Why can't they see it?

Parson wrote:time is a death machine

Has any one else noticed that Parsons moustache symbolises the horns of the devil.

*packs up some deemsters*



*goes on netflix*

hackman wrote:this is all interesting, but pretty obvious, and i dont see the point of it

hollywood's manipulative force can sometime be stronger than media's, and they work hand in hand anyway.

but you can't expect a symbol like the sun to trigger the reaction you want when it's so exhausted and ubiquitous and people can have it associated in their mind with anything they have experienced

more than that, a circle in a square won't mean anything for most people and won't even be noticed

so if you want to communicate with the large masses you need to use their common references, not some esoteric ones. even the fact that parson needs to get us "to his level" disproves him, because it shows that shit is not meant for the masses

and if it's an inside shit what would be the reason for spending so much effort on it?

basically out of 100 people you will prolly get 90 different reactions, even if it's in a context you can expect personal experiences to be stronger than the temporary convention of a 90 min film

Karmacazee wrote:

yeah, i'd love this one decrypted!

alien pimp wrote:

hackman wrote:this is all interesting, but pretty obvious, and i dont see the point of it

hollywood's manipulative force can sometime be stronger than media's, and they work hand in hand anyway.

but you can't expect a symbol like the sun to trigger the reaction you want when it's so exhausted and ubiquitous and people can have it associated in their mind with anything they have experienced

more than that, a circle in a square won't mean anything for most people and won't even be noticed

so if you want to communicate with the large masses you need to use their common references, not some esoteric ones. even the fact that parson needs to get us "to his level" disproves him, because it shows that shit is not meant for the masses

and if it's an inside shit what would be the reason for spending so much effort on it?

basically out of 100 people you will prolly get 90 different reactions, even if it's in a context you can expect personal experiences to be stronger than the temporary convention of a 90 min film

i agree with that
so its basically a joke at the expense of normal people?

Parson wrote:just because freemasons are the only ones making movies and communicate via symbols in every film does not mean that i am trying to prove to you the existence of god.

Amazing.

the more you look for patterns and correlating concepts/symbols, the more often you'll notice it.
the more meaning you project into those things, the more meaning they will have to you.
that doesn't make it meaningful/purposeful but it doesn't make it void/pointless either.
shit has the power you apply to it.
doesnt mean some shit isnt tryna overpower you either though.
just gotta distinguish if it really is rooted externaly outside of yourself /ourself.

etc :/

some of this shit is there by chance- stage lights are actually circles (bulbs) inside squares (filter holders) because this is the most efficient form for them to take and they're there because they're useful props. Some of it is referencing something, but not in the way you imagine- that guy's shirt with the pyramids on it is technique used all over the place as a way of making shit look mystical- aliens and time travellers are often decorated this way- far more base than any conspiracy. All of this shit is just weak- looking out the window I can see all sorts of shit that could be misconstrued as symbolism but my neighbour's roof is that shape because it increases attic space not because the builders in 1930 thought it would be joke to subliminally fuck with me, and even if they did, I'm not really very fucked with by it so it seems like a complicated way of achieving nothing. people can build stuff however they like as far as I'm concerned, its a pretty congenial form of conspiracy.

it's just too broad to claim shapes and number sequences as incontrovertible evidence of the illuminati because fucking triangles are ubiquitous. numbers too, the golden ratio is related to cell division, population spread, even aerodynamics because that's how shit works, plus paisley patterns are pretty. the reappearance of these sequences is because they work- not because aliens control your mind on a quantum computer. can you imagine avoiding all this shit? there'd be nothing left so no wonder you can see it anywhere.

the matrix is full of benign symbolism- it's just a good story. even when this shit is intentional is merely adds to the narrative. nobody is fucking with you.

as for freemasons controlling Hollywood- the sheer diversity of productions, independent and major, immediately disproves the concept of any united purpose. probably people do get other people jobs, its how i get mine and i get my mates jobs too, probably some people take it very seriously. the American government with its enormous military and political might has been trying to control oil fields with wars and sanctions, latin america with the war on drugs, communism with constant attempted assasinations and it fucking fails miserably all the time. what makes you think a tiny group who has to hide its actions could so successfully control everything?

maybe i've missed the point and you're not saying anybody is trying to achieve anything with this shit, perhaps the house with the sun mirror is just to make the family look a bit new-age and they've appropriated ancient symbolism to that end- but that's not even slightly interesting.

movies like grandmas boy just shove symbols into the frame to meet a quota.

its just an indicator of where the money is coming from

alien pimp wrote: so if you want to communicate with the large masses you need to use their common references, not some esoteric ones. even the fact that parson needs to get us "to his level" disproves him, because it shows that shit is not meant for the masses

if you think these symbols are for the masses, you've missed the point entirely.

this is the equivalent of a secret handshake, or a knowing wink. a purposeful footprint.

You know, sometimes, things can just be entertaining art. You really think Matt Parker and Trey Stone are sending out winks to Freemasons?

Parson wrote:

alien pimp wrote: so if you want to communicate with the large masses you need to use their common references, not some esoteric ones. even the fact that parson needs to get us "to his level" disproves him, because it shows that shit is not meant for the masses

if you think these symbols are for the masses, you've missed the point entirely.

this is the equivalent of a secret handshake, or a knowing wink. a purposeful footprint.

i've already covered that option with a question (repeated a few times), it makes less sense that the other one, can you think of one reason for which they would spend so much resources for something that can be solved a 1000 times easier and more effective?

your dismissing attitude makes you not pay attention to many the arguments, so you miss a lot and you can't grow

sometimes i feel like you are a mason on a mission to compromise truth and spread confusion ( http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102061 #6)