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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:31 pm
by gwa
Who is SWIM

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:11 pm
by bandshell
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:45 pm
by delta labs
I didnt like it, not messy enough and didnt last long at all.

Was a lot better with K :wink:


Just felt like weak pills really that never quite got 'there'

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:06 am
by Ham
Delta Labs wrote:I didnt like it, not messy enough and didnt last long at all.

Was a lot better with K :wink:


Just felt like weak pills really that never quite got 'there'
:o What dose did you take.

I found it FAR messier then MD. Havin said that I have ruined the magic with MD totally. I just get a buzz and a moodlift off it now, even with half a gram to a gram of good stuff :( :(

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:12 am
by delta labs
Ham wrote:
Delta Labs wrote:I didnt like it, not messy enough and didnt last long at all.

Was a lot better with K :wink:


Just felt like weak pills really that never quite got 'there'
:o What dose did you take.

I found it FAR messier then MD. Havin said that I have ruined the magic with MD totally. I just get a buzz and a moodlift off it now, even with half a gram to a gram of good stuff :( :(
ive lost the magic with pills/md aswell now :( i took quater of a gram in a bomb to start (having never done it before) and found myself taking a line of meph and k together about 30/40 mins later. No matter how many lines and bombs i did it just felt like a long come up. Never quite fully came up into that messy E explosion. Different drugs i suppose...

edit: you still get a buzz and a moodlift?! lucky ! i just stay awake and feel paranoid, maybe trip out a little bit.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:16 pm
by jameshk
edit: you still get a buzz and a moodlift?! lucky ! i just stay awake and feel paranoid, maybe trip out a little bit.
That is all i've ever got off md, and i've tried alot of different stuff. Some nutty amazingly good stuff aswell (all my mates where gone, i was just sitting there).

I think I have some kind of natural immunity to the stuff.

-hk

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:50 pm
by delta labs
Jameshk wrote:
edit: you still get a buzz and a moodlift?! lucky ! i just stay awake and feel paranoid, maybe trip out a little bit.
That is all i've ever got off md, and i've tried alot of different stuff. Some nutty amazingly good stuff aswell (all my mates where gone, i was just sitting there).

I think I have some kind of natural immunity to the stuff.

-hk
i think some people do, i was at a party with this girl who had never done pills/md before. We all took sum beans, came up properly had a good night. She did 3 of the same pills (off the same person on the same night) and didnt feel anything !

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:53 pm
by bandshell
Delta Labs wrote:
Jameshk wrote:
edit: you still get a buzz and a moodlift?! lucky ! i just stay awake and feel paranoid, maybe trip out a little bit.
That is all i've ever got off md, and i've tried alot of different stuff. Some nutty amazingly good stuff aswell (all my mates where gone, i was just sitting there).

I think I have some kind of natural immunity to the stuff.

-hk
i think some people do, i was at a party with this girl who had never done pills/md before. We all took sum beans, came up properly had a good night. She did 3 of the same pills (off the same person on the same night) and didnt feel anything !
It's called tolerance, you get it with every drug as far as I know. You can;t do acid two days in a row unless you keep topping up the trip your on but if you let it wear off then the next day it barely works.

E's, speed etc you build a gradual tolerance, I had a friend who went raving all the time and she had to drop 2.5 grams of md to even come up.

Tolerance goes if you lay off a bit.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:55 pm
by Ham
Could be an overactive CYP2D6 gene
wiki wrote:ultrarapid metaboliser - these subjects have multiple copies of the CYP2D6 gene expressed, and therefore greater-than-normal CYP2D6 function
Wouldn't get fucked off DXM either!

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:59 pm
by bandshell
Ham wrote:Could be an overactive CYP2D6 gene
wiki wrote:ultrarapid metaboliser - these subjects have multiple copies of the CYP2D6 gene expressed, and therefore greater-than-normal CYP2D6 function
Wouldn't get fucked off DXM either!
DXM is horrible, I had never done it and my mate gave me a gram. I took about 2/3 of it and was walking to a house party and I had an allergic reaction. I started itching all over and felt like I was on a speed comedown all night and kept falling over, I ended up just lying on a pavement for ages and then my mates found me and took me to the party and I just sat around feeling ill as fuck :lol:

Sick Night!

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:01 pm
by delta labs
bandshell wrote:
Delta Labs wrote:
Jameshk wrote:
edit: you still get a buzz and a moodlift?! lucky ! i just stay awake and feel paranoid, maybe trip out a little bit.
That is all i've ever got off md, and i've tried alot of different stuff. Some nutty amazingly good stuff aswell (all my mates where gone, i was just sitting there).

I think I have some kind of natural immunity to the stuff.

-hk
i think some people do, i was at a party with this girl who had never done pills/md before. We all took sum beans, came up properly had a good night. She did 3 of the same pills (off the same person on the same night) and didnt feel anything !
It's called tolerance, you get it with every drug as far as I know. You can;t do acid two days in a row unless you keep topping up the trip your on but if you let it wear off then the next day it barely works.

E's, speed etc you build a gradual tolerance, I had a friend who went raving all the time and she had to drop 2.5 grams of md to even come up.

Tolerance goes if you lay off a bit.
i know but this girl had never done them before, or anything exept k and weed.

It might be tolerance but ive read that your serotonin receptors can shrink if u take a lot of E due to the huge bombardment of serotonin they have to put up with everytime you take it. They can take years (or may never) return to their normal size :( kind of like a perminant tolerance

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:05 pm
by bandshell
yeah exactly, that's why they worked on her and not you, cos your a bean farmer!

and yeah, e's cause serotonin depletion.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:12 pm
by delta labs
bandshell wrote:yeah exactly, that's why they worked on her and not you, cos your a bean farmer!

and yeah, e's cause serotonin depletion.
Read my post again man! they didnt work on her and they did on me :p this was ages ago tho. Around feb i took the strongest pills ive ever done (they were INSANE) and since then i havnt come up properly off any pills or md. So either those pills did something to my brain (serotonin receptors) or every pill and gram ive had since feb (a LOT) have not been mdma.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:14 pm
by bandshell
Delta Labs wrote:
bandshell wrote:yeah exactly, that's why they worked on her and not you, cos your a bean farmer!

and yeah, e's cause serotonin depletion.
Read my post again man! they didnt work on her and they did on me :p this was ages ago tho. Around feb i took the strongest pills ive ever done (they were INSANE) and since then i havnt come up properly off any pills or md. So either those pills did something to my brain (serotonin receptors) or every pill and gram ive had since feb (a LOT) have not been mdma.
Ha shit I swear I saw you say I :lol:

could be both tbh, all the chemicals to make mandy are illegal everywhere except like china now, hence the rise in mephedrone use.

Stimulants are no good anyway, it's September, go pick some shrooms and sit outside. :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:15 pm
by Ham
bandshell wrote:
DXM is horrible, I had never done it and my mate gave me a gram. I took about 2/3 of it and was walking to a house party and I had an allergic reaction. I started itching all over and felt like I was on a speed comedown all night and kept falling over, I ended up just lying on a pavement for ages and then my mates found me and took me to the party and I just sat around feeling ill as fuck :lol:

Sick Night!
Hahaha! Fuck that never had the (mis)fortune of trying DXM, heard crazy things about it.

I think it would only be any use in a locked and padded room at a 5th plateu trip :)

Its basically a dissociative like ket or PCP, that explains the stumbling!

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:18 pm
by bandshell
Ham wrote:
bandshell wrote:
DXM is horrible, I had never done it and my mate gave me a gram. I took about 2/3 of it and was walking to a house party and I had an allergic reaction. I started itching all over and felt like I was on a speed comedown all night and kept falling over, I ended up just lying on a pavement for ages and then my mates found me and took me to the party and I just sat around feeling ill as fuck :lol:

Sick Night!
Hahaha! Fuck that never had the (mis)fortune of trying DXM, heard crazy things about it.

I think it would only be any use in a locked and padded room at a 5th plateu trip :)

Its basically a dissociative like ket or PCP, that explains the stumbling!
yeah I know it's a dissociative but I had an allergic reaction, intense itching and flu like/comedown symptomns. Not a nice drug.

but it's a funny story.

I have never felt that bad in my life though, I thought I was going to just drop to the floor and pass out any second.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:22 pm
by delta labs

Stimulants are no good anyway, it's September, go pick some shrooms and sit outside. :wink:
when is the season? ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:24 pm
by bandshell
Delta Labs wrote:

Stimulants are no good anyway, it's September, go pick some shrooms and sit outside. :wink:
when is the season? ;)
:lol:

I can't tell if that's a genuine question or not, the wink is throwing me off in every direction possible.

For anyone who doesn't know when season is, it's September (That's now!) till the first frost.

Go forth!

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:28 pm
by Ham
Man that sounds fucking horrible.

Maybe that common sense thing that everyone agrees on (but no one does) of testing a small dose encase of allergy would have been wise lol!

Arrr I'm goin a-pickin tomorrow :D :D

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:29 pm
by delta labs
bandshell wrote:
Delta Labs wrote:

Stimulants are no good anyway, it's September, go pick some shrooms and sit outside. :wink:
when is the season? ;)
:lol:

I can't tell if that's a genuine question or not, the wink is throwing me off in every direction possible.

For anyone who doesn't know when season is, it's September (That's now!) till the first frost.


Go forth!
haha sorry man ! It was a genuine question.

Im err just popping out for a bit :D