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Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:39 pm
by parson
what the fuck did albert einstein know anyway

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:41 pm
by alien pimp
bandshell wrote:why does the illusion have to belong to anything?
i assumed somebody will jump in saying the self-perception itself could be an illusion, i've seen much more far fetched shit in this thread alone

other than that, did my answer help your doubts?
if not, i need to know how you answer my questions and i'll be able to clarify it for you

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:44 pm
by alien pimp
parson wrote:what the fuck did albert einstein know anyway
ask his contesters
also im sure someone asked him the same thing about the scientists he contested, but that didn't stop him

you seem to not be able to judge with your own brain, you just compile shit in a pretty biased and wrong manner, that's why half your posts are badly understood quotes

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:45 pm
by parson
i'm seriously cracking up a lot

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:45 pm
by bandshell
alien pimp wrote:
bandshell wrote:why does the illusion have to belong to anything?
i assumed somebody will jump in saying the self-perception itself could be an illusion, i've seen much more far fetched shit in this thread alone

other than that, did my answer help your doubts?
if not, i need to know how you answer my questions and i'll be able to clarify it for you
I just don't see how anyone is sure of anything and how they can think anything definite when the only perception they have is their own which may not exist anyway.

Also your operating on the belief that anything humans have thought of actually applies to anything.

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:47 pm
by parson
that dude is operating on the belief that physics is a sham because a.) he doesn't understand it and b.) i won't explain it to him

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:48 pm
by bandshell
parson wrote:that dude is operating on the belief that physics is a sham because a.) he doesn't understand it and b.) i won't explain it to him
:lol:

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:49 pm
by alien pimp
parson wrote:that dude is operating on the belief that physics is a sham because a.) he doesn't understand it and b.) i won't explain it to him
you're delirious also

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:50 pm
by parson
believing in physics but not time is like believing in cake, but not flour

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:52 pm
by bandshell
I don't see how anyone believes in either. Well, I do. It's easier to believe in something than nothing. (even though that's a paradox) :lol:

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:53 pm
by parson
i believe in physics. and the physics says we're living in a video game that we co-create

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:54 pm
by parson

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:54 pm
by alien pimp
bandshell wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
bandshell wrote:why does the illusion have to belong to anything?
i assumed somebody will jump in saying the self-perception itself could be an illusion, i've seen much more far fetched shit in this thread alone

other than that, did my answer help your doubts?
if not, i need to know how you answer my questions and i'll be able to clarify it for you
I just don't see how anyone is sure of anything and how they can think anything definite when the only perception they have is their own which may not exist anyway.

Also your operating on the belief that anything humans have thought of actually applies to anything.
i don't understand the second sentence, but for the first sentence i can answer:
i wanted to help you understand and to do that i needed you to answer simple questions. instead of doing that you preferred to state your doubts again. that's not a very good method to find out stuff

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:55 pm
by bandshell
parson wrote:i believe in physics. and the physics says we're living in a video game that we co-create
how do you believe in physics?

I am genuinely asking this btw, I'm not just trying to cause shit like dat pimp. :lol:

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:57 pm
by alien pimp
parson wrote:i believe in physics. and the physics says we're living in a video game that we co-create
you believe in your own imagination.
physicists themselves piss on your beliefs every second they discover something that changes the previous perceptions

when you can't think, you need to believe

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:58 pm
by parson
bandshell wrote:
parson wrote:i believe in physics. and the physics says we're living in a video game that we co-create
how do you believe in physics?

I am genuinely asking this btw, I'm not just trying to cause shit like dat pimp. :lol:
i choose to. physics corresponds to my experience, and seems like a safe bet.

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:00 pm
by alien pimp
parson wrote:
bandshell wrote:
parson wrote:i believe in physics. and the physics says we're living in a video game that we co-create
how do you believe in physics?

I am genuinely asking this btw, I'm not just trying to cause shit like dat pimp. :lol:
i choose to. physics corresponds to my experience, and seems like a safe bet.
exactly
it's a choice that seems to fit, not the conclusion of exigent analysis
but even a broken clock shows the right time 2 times a day

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:01 pm
by bandshell
alien pimp wrote:
bandshell wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
bandshell wrote:why does the illusion have to belong to anything?
i assumed somebody will jump in saying the self-perception itself could be an illusion, i've seen much more far fetched shit in this thread alone

other than that, did my answer help your doubts?
if not, i need to know how you answer my questions and i'll be able to clarify it for you
I just don't see how anyone is sure of anything and how they can think anything definite when the only perception they have is their own which may not exist anyway.

Also your operating on the belief that anything humans have thought of actually applies to anything.
i don't understand the second sentence, but for the first sentence i can answer:
i wanted to help you understand and to do that i needed you to answer simple questions. instead of doing that you preferred to state your doubts again. that's not a very good method to find out stuff
Your saying this like your doubts are the truth.

All human ideas (everything we supposedly know) are designed to work judging from what we percieve. Our perception isn't certain, proved etc and may not even exist. Presuming that if self perception is an illusion then who's illusion is obsolete because that's working on the idea that any ideas are valid and apply to anything at all.

I don't think what I'm talking about is within human comprehension though as it all results in a paradox. Nothing is still something.



I'm not good at wording this. :lol:

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:08 pm
by alien pimp
bandshell wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
bandshell wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
bandshell wrote:why does the illusion have to belong to anything?
i assumed somebody will jump in saying the self-perception itself could be an illusion, i've seen much more far fetched shit in this thread alone

other than that, did my answer help your doubts?
if not, i need to know how you answer my questions and i'll be able to clarify it for you
I just don't see how anyone is sure of anything and how they can think anything definite when the only perception they have is their own which may not exist anyway.

Also your operating on the belief that anything humans have thought of actually applies to anything.
i don't understand the second sentence, but for the first sentence i can answer:
i wanted to help you understand and to do that i needed you to answer simple questions. instead of doing that you preferred to state your doubts again. that's not a very good method to find out stuff
Your saying this like your doubts are the truth.

All human ideas (everything we supposedly know) are designed to work judging from what we percieve. Our perception isn't certain, proved etc and may not even exist. Presuming that if self perception is an illusion then who's illusion is obsolete because that's working on the idea that any ideas are valid and apply to anything at all.

I don't think what I'm talking about is within human comprehension though as it all results in a paradox. Nothing is still something.



I'm not good at wording this. :lol:
not sure i got everything but:
what we really know is not designed by us necessarily, it can be pre-designed and just discovered by us. at least most of the truth is, if not all of it.
but i see your need to know is actually a disguise for your need to argue. otherwise you'd start from the very beginning: who's doing the action of self perception if self does not exist?

Re: Visualizing Ten Dimensions (String Theory)

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:10 pm
by parson
in the beginning there was the word