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Parson wrote:all this mockery and ridicule is rooted in fear of mockery and ridicule

better to be part of the ignorant angry mob than than be ridiculed for questioning the foundation of society

Very well said, and a pity that it is so true

fubar wrote:Pyramids are a truly amazing thing, and the fact that they have occurred in different civilizations all over the world without any connection/communication is also mind boggling

Nah, with ancient technology, if you want to build realllly high, you HAVE to build pyramids. Why? Most of the weight is near the ground. It's basic physics.

fubar wrote:but no more amazing then the simultaneous invention of fire all over the world

That's not the case. Fire was discovered in Africa in Homo erectus, before humans evolved. It spread WITH humans all over the world.

fubar wrote:or the wheel or the use of bronze etc, but you wouldn't connect those things to extra terrestrial life.

The wheel wasn't there all over the world. It was only present in Eurasian cultures and related ones.

I'm not too sure about bronze, though. Especially since it's not equally available everywhere in the world.

Parson wrote:first post is a documentary showing the pyramids, showing people digging them up, scientists explaining what they've found, footage of the insides, etc etc. they have barely uncovered shit so far because its such a huge undertaking, but there is no doubt that they have found the largest pyramid known to mankind in bosnia.

no doubt.

then in the archaeology article i posted, the guy who has never been there is swearing its all bullshit because it doesn't coincide with consensus history. supposedly there was a glacier covering bosnia at the time the pyramids were made.

ok so who is lying. the guy with the pyramids, or the people trying to defend consensus history?

why would anybody lie about history?

why oh why?

because there is a LOT to history being carefully kept under wraps.

You're acting as if a glacier covering Bosnia isn't based on physical evidence that is clear all over Europe. You don't have to have been at the physical spot where the pyramid was supposedly built to know it. Just like I wouldn't have to be at Loch Ness to know that no plesiosaur ha survived there because the K/T extinction was 65 million years ago, whereas Loch Ness was created in the last ice age. You're also twisting up the archeologist's actual reasoning. His reason isn't 'because it goes against the consensus' but 'there was a glacier over there'. The fact that it is a consensus, a scientific consensus, matters because it means that no scientist in the field of geology will disagree about a glacier having been there and not just because they hate the idea of pyramids being there.

I think you're kinda gullible and unaware of how science works and how there are people who 'claim' to be scientists who see something and use it to push their personal agenda more than they do it to advance science.

Larry Martin, a scientist who refuses to accept that birds are dinosaurs, looks at a reconstruction of a dinosaur's (Microraptor, a dinosaur with flight feathers on its fore- and hind limbs) pelvis + leg and sees a Crocodylomorph (ancestors of crocodiles). Now thing is, according to him it's NOT dinosaur because the legs aren't located directly under the pelvis. His basis on this? A completely crushed pelvis. Anatomists have said he's wrong and they're supporting the views of the BAD people (Birds Are Dinosaurs). According to him, it's impossible that a bipedal animal was a climber and thus, dinosaurs aren't, but birds themSELVES are bipeds.

He's been CONVINCED that birds aren't dinosaurs for DECADES now. Decades. No matter what this fossil had looked like he would've STILL said it's a crocodile. He just hates the idea of birds being dinosaurs.

So why would someone lie about history? To suit their personal agenda. What if dude with the pyramids loves pyramids and is from Bosnia and would reeaaally like to see pyramids in Bosnia and not only that but also the BIGGEST pyramid? Scientists are smart people with a child like brain. In some scientists it means that they have a child like curiosity and imagination, that helps them with scientific research. In others, it means that 'they just wanna'. period.

Jungleboy wrote:There is something about a shape of a pyramid that is so unatural for humanity to build in such an early stage of our development. It makes no sense to build something that gradually gets smaller towards the top, its a waste of space.

It makes A LOT of sense. These are cultures that worshiped the heavens. In South-America with the Maya.... or the Egyptians in Africa. They're obsessed with the heavens. The heavens are up high so... they wanna build as high as possible.

Now, concrete and steel constructions are a thing of modern times. If you wanna build high, you want most of the weight and support to be near the base and less near the top.

Egyptians lived in/near the desert. Obviously, they saw a lot dunes and again, look at what dunes look like? Wide at the base, narrow at the top. It's a naturally reoccurring shape.

The Egyptian pyramids weren't there to store goods. Well some goods (grain, weapons, slaves, whatever, FOR the pharaoh), but they weren't warehouses or living quarters. So why would it matter if it's a waste of space near the top? They're mausoleums that are meant to aid the dead pharaoh into his/her trip to the afterlife among the gods. Hence their location.

Parson wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_City

Its a proposed idea, but the design is flawed.
"A major weakness in this project is that if one truss fails the whole structure and 750,000 people will crash to the sea."

bump

amazing thread!

and people are more open now too so makes sense to revive it

Genevieve wrote:

Jungleboy wrote:There is something about a shape of a pyramid that is so unatural for humanity to build in such an early stage of our development. It makes no sense to build something that gradually gets smaller towards the top, its a waste of space.

It makes A LOT of sense. These are cultures that worshiped the heavens. In South-America with the Maya.... or the Egyptians in Africa. They're obsessed with the heavens. The heavens are up high so... they wanna build as high as possible.

Now, concrete and steel constructions are a thing of modern times. If you wanna build high, you want most of the weight and support to be near the base and less near the top.

Egyptians lived in/near the desert. Obviously, they saw a lot dunes and again, look at what dunes look like? Wide at the base, narrow at the top. It's a naturally reoccurring shape.

The Egyptian pyramids weren't there to store goods. Well some goods (grain, weapons, slaves, whatever, FOR the pharaoh), but they weren't warehouses or living quarters. So why would it matter if it's a waste of space near the top? They're mausoleums that are meant to aid the dead pharaoh into his/her trip to the afterlife among the gods. Hence their location.

yeh, glad this is up again
genevieve nailed it and proved once again he's the most lucid mind around here
except for one thing: the pyramids in egypt were mathematically perfect and that particular shape was experimentally proved to have amazing physical effects, like regeneration and shit...
i don't know for any other pyramids to respect the same ratios or to have any special merits

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alien pimp

http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/research.htm
http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/picture-tour1.htm

WonkknoW wrote:alien pimp

http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/research.htm
http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/picture-tour1.htm

thank you, knew about the experiments, but the links came in very handy
anyway those were built nowadays based on some of the knowledge provided by the egyptians, so they only confirm the idea egyptians deserve to freak us out with their science

My biggest beef with this is... How could people just forget about a 220m high pyramid? Bosnia's between Greece and Italy, the place has always been populated, how could people in ancient times have been unaware of it?

Don't let what people tell you give you your idea of the world. Question and think for yourself. To me anyway this makes sense. History isn't just a coincidence.

xarcane wrote:My biggest beef with this is... How could people just forget about a 220m high pyramid? Bosnia's between Greece and Italy, the place has always been populated, how could people in ancient times have been unaware of it?

see my thread
atlantis maaan

the pyramids where built by aleins!

It looks like its buried underneath a hill. Or a group of people are trying to destroy evidence on this.

dunno if its been said before but theres also a suspected underwater city of cuba

nicenice wrote:Don't let what people tell you give you your idea of the world.

most of our ideas com from or are originated by other people. selection is the key

Everything must come from something.

larger than downtown LA

Pistonsbeneath wrote:

seckle wrote:

Parson wrote:ok so who actually checked some links

i checked this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoarchaeology

everything on wikipedia can be used in an argument but nothing from a random blog/site/video can be...

this is a picture of the bosnian pyramid..



I am not saying everything on every website going against the official line is right but these are certainly interesting pictures...the bosnian pic looks man made to me at least

Well, that one sure is - hence the shovels.

Generally, though, nothing in those videos looked much more regular and unnatural than a lot of natural features in the UK - Malham Cove, Lud's Church, some of the gritstone edges in the peaks etc etc. And afaict all of the local geologists who've been and looked at it have said it was entirely natural.

are you seriously still attempting to believe that this pyramid complex is natural? it aligns with the stars and giza.