Moultz wrote:it would be good to hear some views from artists.. do they like seeing people doing mosh pits?
I think it was Flux Pavilion said he liked it on FB. MC Rage encourages it at C&S gigs.
If thats true about Flux i can kinda see why. Sure he used to be in some rock band before he started producing. In a way i can see why artists might like it.. Shows that people are going wild to their tunes and that its 'going off'
I do think tho that a mosh pit at the pace of 140bpm would be funny as fuck to watch. SLOW MO
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:31 pm
by cityzen
herbalicious wrote:That video sums up Fabric perfectly.
That looked way worse than any Fabric i've ever been to..... and i've been to a few Playaz in my time!
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:52 pm
by rinseballs21
herbalicious wrote:Didn't an MC stop the music and refuse to carry on until the crowd stopped moshing? Please confirm.
when jakes played prefilth in LA in 2010 the MC kemst and even jakes himself stopped the music more than once to tell the moshers to piss off and stop clearing the females away.
also at another show i went to, i forgot which one, the dj and MC were looking out for mosh pits that were starting, and immediately when they sense one is about to break off, they backspin into an un-moshable chill tune. i fucking loved it
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:06 pm
by fractal
That's brilliant! As always, keep the dj in charge!!
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:04 pm
by skotyb
I'm a metal head and have been in more than my fair share of hugely violent mosh pits, and I can honestly say, without a doubt, that they do not belong at raves.
It angers me more than anything when I'm trying to just chill and listen to the tunes, and then I got some dickhead; who hasn't got a clue about the music or the DJ and is only there to pose, Jumping into me and my friends for literally no reason. Someone actually did this to Lean Forward as well.
Do these douches actually think that they are hardmen? Come Jump in a Slayer pit with me you homophobe., lets see how long you last!
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:55 am
by _cheef_
skotyb wrote:I'm a metal head and have been in more than my fair share of hugely violent mosh pits, and I can honestly say, without a doubt, that they do not belong at raves.
It angers me more than anything when I'm trying to just chill and listen to the tunes, and then I got some dickhead; who hasn't got a clue about the music or the DJ and is only there to pose, Jumping into me and my friends for literally no reason. Someone actually did this to Lean Forward as well.
Do these douches actually think that they are hardmen? Come Jump in a Slayer pit with me you Hi, I'm a homophobe, lets see how long you last!
Yeah man, I was lucky enough to catch a Pantara show back in the day, and these fuckers that mosh at dubstep shows would have gotten eaten alive in that pit!!
herbalicious wrote:Didn't an MC stop the music and refuse to carry on until the crowd stopped moshing? Please confirm.
when jakes played prefilth in LA in 2010 the MC kemst and even jakes himself stopped the music more than once to tell the moshers to piss off and stop clearing the females away.
also at another show i went to, i forgot which one, the dj and MC were looking out for mosh pits that were starting, and immediately when they sense one is about to break off, they backspin into an un-moshable chill tune. i fucking loved it
This is awesome.
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:10 am
by mIrReN
monkers wrote:
rinseballs21 wrote:
herbalicious wrote:Didn't an MC stop the music and refuse to carry on until the crowd stopped moshing? Please confirm.
when jakes played prefilth in LA in 2010 the MC kemst and even jakes himself stopped the music more than once to tell the moshers to piss off and stop clearing the females away.
also at another show i went to, i forgot which one, the dj and MC were looking out for mosh pits that were starting, and immediately when they sense one is about to break off, they backspin into an un-moshable chill tune. i fucking loved it
This is awesome.
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:16 am
by LA_Boxers
mIrReN wrote:
monkers wrote:
rinseballs21 wrote:
herbalicious wrote:Didn't an MC stop the music and refuse to carry on until the crowd stopped moshing? Please confirm.
when jakes played prefilth in LA in 2010 the MC kemst and even jakes himself stopped the music more than once to tell the moshers to piss off and stop clearing the females away.
also at another show i went to, i forgot which one, the dj and MC were looking out for mosh pits that were starting, and immediately when they sense one is about to break off, they backspin into an un-moshable chill tune. i fucking loved it
This is awesome.
Andy C & GQ did this after a Caspa & Rod Azlan set I was at. The Caspa set had got very moshy and GQ said they wouldnt play any more music until the moshing had stopped. Joker had played before Caspa and that was full of vibes.
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:00 pm
by joeki
That's what u get when people start imitating jump up d&b at 140 bpm's. Al lot of the stuff that's getting pushed right now, Circus, Dub Police, Rottun, Chronos, Hench to an extent and some other labels/artists....it's all meant to push adrenaline. It's all about the big drops and people freaking out. Now I don't mind that, I think a lot of people go out to get that kind of feeling.
Also, I don't mind the occasional brock out, I don't mind an occasional big drop. Coki, Skream, Kromestar and a host of others can make tunes that work like that. But if that goes on for 6 hours straight, that's not the kind of atmosphere I'd associate with dubstep. I never went out to the dance to go mental. Dubstep for me was/is quite the opposite : it's meditation, it's hypnotic, it's about your own little space and just moving in your own way...to get immersed in the music. Feel bass.... skank a little, pull up a big spliff. Not to go apeshit with a bunch of dudes wearing wifebeaters... I can perfectly enjoy dubstep sober for example. I'd rather go to a proper Acid rave or breakcore or something if I wanted to get completely wasted and do some mad shit.
I find this hard to explain to younger or more recent fans of dubstep...they find it weird : you go out to get fucked and do shit right???
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:16 pm
by rinseballs21
i have noticed how much moshpits get stopped immediately if a big name dj actually tells them chavs to stop doing it
i mean from what i saw people listened to what jakes said, although they didn't take note of what kemst was saying for a minute.
i really think if more artists personally call out the piss moshers at events on the mic they will stop.
i mean wouldn't it blow to be the douchebag who got told by jakes himself to stop with the fairy aggy shit?
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:48 pm
by Fault
I couldn't agree more with this subject, was at Fabric on friday and it was totally different to the Dub Police takeover that took place last summer. When all you wanna do is enjoy the music and skank, bare groups of mugs get together to elbow and mosh as if there at download festival. It seems to get worse every event, it is so dire to see these people ruin events, it's not that we don't want people to dance and skank just not be complete dicks and pushing to and from eachother. These phony dubsteppers i swear don't even like the genre, whoever translates a bassline as a signal to mosh and hurt other people have it all wrong.
It should be all about the music and everyone coming together because of the tunes, that is when an event is gonna be sick hopefully this trend doesn't it needs to be removed like a dying limb ASAP
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:27 pm
by kirky
Bahhh, i don't think the flux used to be in a rock band, so likes dubstep moshing is any excuse.. I love metal, and lived on listening to it until a few years back, been to plenty of gigs and had a good mosh, but i think there's no place for moshing at dubstep or dnb nights. Pisses me off when you got a bunch of pricks trying to jump all over each other and me, when i'm having a good skank in my own space, it's not about that.
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:36 pm
by joeki
When I saw Noisia in the summer, they called for a wall of death...
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:43 pm
by belalala
ugh that video is
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:13 pm
by Equinoxz
Ironically, Cookie Monsta has a new tune out soon called Mosh Pit..
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:31 pm
by Icey
Moshing/mosh pit/wall of death is good on a fucking metal gig. Not dubstep or basically any electronic music style(imo atleast). I don't know why people blame metalheads for brostep though :S
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:51 pm
by chico_red
joeki wrote:That's what u get when people start imitating jump up d&b at 140 bpm's. Al lot of the stuff that's getting pushed right now, Circus, Dub Police, Rottun, Chronos, Hench to an extent and some other labels/artists....it's all meant to push adrenaline. It's all about the big drops and people freaking out. Now I don't mind that, I think a lot of people go out to get that kind of feeling.
Also, I don't mind the occasional brock out, I don't mind an occasional big drop. Coki, Skream, Kromestar and a host of others can make tunes that work like that. But if that goes on for 6 hours straight, that's not the kind of atmosphere I'd associate with dubstep. I never went out to the dance to go mental. Dubstep for me was/is quite the opposite : it's meditation, it's hypnotic, it's about your own little space and just moving in your own way...to get immersed in the music.
I disagree here. I love the Kromestar, Coki, Skream, Jakes bangers more than anything. Going for it hard on the dancefloor doesn't have to mean going for it like a retard! It is quite possible to go mental in your own private space.
This video has been posted many times, but is a perfect example how people with a decent amount of co-ordination can all go mental without moshing like fucktards:
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:54 pm
by chico_red
joeki wrote:When I saw Noisia in the summer, they called for a wall of death...
Wish someone would have the guts to just stand there in the middle of this "wall" sticking it up at the DJ booth!
Re: Crowd Behaviour
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:59 pm
by TooMuch
chico_red wrote:
joeki wrote:That's what u get when people start imitating jump up d&b at 140 bpm's. Al lot of the stuff that's getting pushed right now, Circus, Dub Police, Rottun, Chronos, Hench to an extent and some other labels/artists....it's all meant to push adrenaline. It's all about the big drops and people freaking out. Now I don't mind that, I think a lot of people go out to get that kind of feeling.
Also, I don't mind the occasional brock out, I don't mind an occasional big drop. Coki, Skream, Kromestar and a host of others can make tunes that work like that. But if that goes on for 6 hours straight, that's not the kind of atmosphere I'd associate with dubstep. I never went out to the dance to go mental. Dubstep for me was/is quite the opposite : it's meditation, it's hypnotic, it's about your own little space and just moving in your own way...to get immersed in the music.
I disagree here. I love the Kromestar, Coki, Skream, Jakes bangers more than anything. Going for it hard on the dancefloor doesn't have to mean going for it like a retard! It is quite possible to go mental in your own private space.
This video has been posted many times, but is a perfect example how people with a decent amount of co-ordination can all go mental without moshing like fucktards:
The contrast between this video and that of the one i posted in Sheffield is unreal. Get me to Outlook 2011
