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yeah i agree, i actually wrote something similar first then changed it to that but i actually fully agree with you thereBrian Oblivion wrote:. I dont think trendkill was an attempt at a new metal sound though, there I disagree with you because Im pretty sure in interviews at the time they said they just wanted to kill all the trendy shit and make an uncompromising metal album, there was no rapping, deck scratching, little hip hop interludes etc, I dont think they bent to the trend at all, quite the opposite if anything, that album was barbaric for the most.noam wrote:jus wana go back to thisBrian Oblivion wrote:they basically reinvented metal when they came outwormcode wrote:Yeah had a feeling after that collaboration with skrillex
Korn are grasping at straws to stay relevant these days I think.
i dont think Korn really had anything to do with it themselves
Ross Robinson on the other hand...
metal basically went from being overtly showy, to a rawer more gritty sound in the late 80's influenced by hardcore and punk - thats Thrash. REAL thrash.
Pantera/Machine Head/FF etc. are later breeds - when Thrash started to die out they simplified the tracks, and Pantera really added this much rawer, bottom end to the sound, slowed things down a little, and what came of it was a sort of hybrid, precursor to nu-metal.
Ross Robinson took the sound that Pantera/Sepultura/FF were making in the early-mid 90's and brought production techniques learned from things like Metallica's Black Album, the wall of sound, shortened the songs to pop song length, cut out guitar solo's and pushed the angst from Grunge mixed with this simplified, newer metal sound. hence, Nu-Metal.
so we got Korn and Deftones supporting Machine Head and Pantera on tours around 94/5, with these quick, heavy, sludgy, bassey metal tracks with incredibly high production value. THAT was what happened to metal - it didn't get 'reinvented'. it changed slowly over time, to do with trends. Look at Pantera's album titles - round the time nu-metal was really kicking off and grunge was dying, Great Southern Trendkill came out (96?)... that album was basically their attempt at a nu-metal sound... but with styles and personalities like Pantera had naturally all that came through, and the album is darker and more menacing than most of the 'nu' shit that came out.
anyway, the point was, no one reinvented metal... metal just changed, the biggest facilitator was Ross Robinson, not Korn though.
fair call man, fair call, I wasnt actually aware of that. I think I have slipknots first album somewhere, I was never totally sold on them but actually I like the vocals more than Korn, I was never totally sold on Korn either tbh. I think I probably like Slipknots music a bit more than Korns too, Ive only heard the first album though. They did have an air of the contrived about them, it seemed quite a packaged affair which never sat right with me. It was like they look just like Mr Bungle, and they sound somewhere between Korn and Machine Head, and they got a dj like Incubus... just seemed like a lot of box ticking on the bandwagon list which I think just made me want to hate them at the time more than their music could pull them back from. I think I saw them at Brixton Academy with some friends at some stage, remember very little about it besides feeling like an old man among the crowd even though I was probably about 22/23 at the timenoam wrote:however, the Ross Robinson thing i think is just undeniable, with Slipknot for example, he's the one who made them cut down song times, speed them up and take out guitar solo's - by that point he'd got his formula locked and had established the 'nu-metal' sound. at that point he was the fulcrum for its evolution into 3minute, detuned, grindy, angsty pro-tooled metal
If you think Korn is heavy you don't know music.RandoRando wrote:Alright guys, the genre is called metalstep. Nothing to do with dubstep . So all of you an stop complaining, they are jut making heavy music and now incorporating electronic music into theirs. I thinking will be cool for those who are fans of heavy music.
Haha they are insane. There's a video out there of them live where the vocalist just runs across a ton of people in the front. Not surfs... just straight up runs over them. Hilariousknell wrote:i saw DillingerEP live when i had never even heard their music before... scared the shit out of me, one of the best nights of my life
is this a deliberately random bunch of words?incnic wrote:dj krust made warhead and burial the production garage volumes of today the rain sampled
capo ultra wrote:is this a deliberately random bunch of words?incnic wrote:dj krust made warhead and burial the production garage volumes of today the rain sampled
I SEE THE FUTURE OF THIS GENRE BASED ON ONE SONG.say_whut wrote:STFU and embrace dubcore
NRHc wrote:capo ultra wrote:is this a deliberately random bunch of words?incnic wrote:dj krust made warhead and burial the production garage volumes of today the rain sampled
