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This is a first world culture problem. We are so privileged in our freedom of speech that we think we can pretty much say anything and expect to be pardoned.

If I was back home and I tell another Filipino I want to piss on their lola's grave while they were grieving (surely not going to happen), I will have someone carrying an itak sword in front of my door ready to cut a part of my body. Words are considered weapon in my culture. We have a phrase translated to 'words are as sharp as a sword, they can also cut as deep'. Something along those line.

Just because we live in a modernized world, far from the golden olden days, our values gotta change too. Although, I am not surprised. Anyway, this is the most I can related this thread to the real world. If you think it's okay to devalue or be devalued, even online, I think you need a lot of TLC and disciplining.
My 2 pesos.

I read about this and to be honest I think that taking the piss out of people who have committed suicide and their families is a proper offence and should be dealt with by the police.

It's just too far, why would you even get kicks from that anyway?

Over-the-top troll is over-the-top.

Clean wrote:Why the fuck do people make Facebook memorials?

It's just asking assholes to come and post stupid comments like that twat.

That's exactly what i was thinking.
People who actually care about the deceased ones would send their condolences and support the family anyway. A fucking facebook page is not a proper way to preserve the memory of your loved ones. I agree it's a bit fucked up to post shit on there when those people are hurting, but I can't feel sorry for them after making a lame fb memorial page.

ultraspatial wrote:

Clean wrote:Why the fuck do people make Facebook memorials?

It's just asking assholes to come and post stupid comments like that twat.

That's exactly what i was thinking.
People who actually care about the deceased ones would send their condolences and support the family anyway. A fucking facebook page is not a proper way to preserve the memory of your loved ones. I agree it's a bit fucked up to post shit on there when those people are hurting, but I can't feel sorry for them after making a lame fb memorial page.

Isn't it the virtual equivalent of a gravestone? I don't get why people find such a separation between real life and online... of course people want a place they can congregate and talk about the recently deceased... and considering we do most of our communication online these days, online seems the most appropriate place to do it...

magma wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Clean wrote:Why the fuck do people make Facebook memorials?

It's just asking assholes to come and post stupid comments like that twat.

That's exactly what i was thinking.
People who actually care about the deceased ones would send their condolences and support the family anyway. A fucking facebook page is not a proper way to preserve the memory of your loved ones. I agree it's a bit fucked up to post shit on there when those people are hurting, but I can't feel sorry for them after making a lame fb memorial page.

Isn't it the virtual equivalent of a gravestone? I don't get why people find such a separation between real life and online... of course people want a place they can congregate and talk about the recently deceased... and considering we do most of our communication online these days, online seems the most appropriate place to do it...

I get your point, but virtual reality has one advantage, that's been mentioned here before, and that's privacy. Why didn't the family or whomever is running the page just make it private? That way, you don't have people coming over and taking a piss on the "virtual gravestone".

ultraspatial wrote:

magma wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Clean wrote:Why the fuck do people make Facebook memorials?

It's just asking assholes to come and post stupid comments like that twat.

That's exactly what i was thinking.
People who actually care about the deceased ones would send their condolences and support the family anyway. A fucking facebook page is not a proper way to preserve the memory of your loved ones. I agree it's a bit fucked up to post shit on there when those people are hurting, but I can't feel sorry for them after making a lame fb memorial page.

Isn't it the virtual equivalent of a gravestone? I don't get why people find such a separation between real life and online... of course people want a place they can congregate and talk about the recently deceased... and considering we do most of our communication online these days, online seems the most appropriate place to do it...

I get your point, but virtual reality has one advantage, that's been mentioned here before, and that's privacy. Why didn't the family or whomever is running the page just make it private? That way, you don't have people coming over and taking a piss on the "virtual gravestone".

Because, like most of us, her parents didn't know everyone that she knew online and in the real world? Put up a public page and watch all the heartening comments from people who've known your daughter throughout her life.... seems better than holding a "real world" funeral where you only get to invite half the people who were important to her.

I have friends online (for example from here) that I rarely see in the flesh... they wouldn't make it onto a funeral invitation from my parents... but they might want to leave a message if I pegged it tomorrow (and I imagine my parents would like to see them).

magma wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

magma wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Clean wrote:Why the fuck do people make Facebook memorials?

It's just asking assholes to come and post stupid comments like that twat.

That's exactly what i was thinking.
People who actually care about the deceased ones would send their condolences and support the family anyway. A fucking facebook page is not a proper way to preserve the memory of your loved ones. I agree it's a bit fucked up to post shit on there when those people are hurting, but I can't feel sorry for them after making a lame fb memorial page.

Isn't it the virtual equivalent of a gravestone? I don't get why people find such a separation between real life and online... of course people want a place they can congregate and talk about the recently deceased... and considering we do most of our communication online these days, online seems the most appropriate place to do it...

I get your point, but virtual reality has one advantage, that's been mentioned here before, and that's privacy. Why didn't the family or whomever is running the page just make it private? That way, you don't have people coming over and taking a piss on the "virtual gravestone".

Because, like most of us, her parents didn't know everyone that she knew online and in the real world? Put up a public page and watch all the heartening comments from people who've known your daughter throughout her life.... seems better than holding a "real world" funeral where you only get to invite half the people who were important to her.

I have friends online (for example from here) that I rarely see in the flesh... they wouldn't make it onto a funeral invitation from my parents... but they might want to leave a message if I pegged it tomorrow (and I imagine my parents would like to see them).

Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

No. But that doesn't change the fact that things like this are useless and have little value. The same goes for wisghing/being wished happy birthday and all of that. They're just empty words/gestures.

you now get more time in prison for editing a thomas the tank engine video than stabbing someone in the throat. The video is imaginary, you don't have to watch it, you don't have to take offence. The guy who made it was just lonely and sad.

But the fb memorial pages are bollocks, what's the honest difference between someone taking the piss out of a dead person for attention and someone pretending to have actually been their friend or given a shit about them for attention? When a girl near me committed suicide and it got on the news her fb page had thousands of likes and comments like 'i didn't know you but you seem like a nice girl from you pictures and i hope you r.i.p'. If that girls death wasn't on the news she wouldn't have gave a shit, she only did because her friends did and at the time all of the local teenage girls did, despite the fact other teenagers her age committed suicide for far far more devastating reasons than the reason she did and yet they didn't get memorial pages set up by people they didn't know.

Here's an idea to everyone getting so angry, make the page private. Or, if it has to be public for whatever reason, ignore the trolls. They're trolls for fuck sake, just grow up a bit.

ultraspatial wrote:

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

No. But that doesn't change the fact that things like this are useless and have little value. The same goes for wisghing/being wished happy birthday and all of that. They're just empty words/gestures.

Empty to you mongo, but not to others who see value in gestures like that and if you can't see that then you lack basic social intelligence, a key symtom of being an Asperger.

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

No. But that doesn't change the fact that things like this are useless and have little value. The same goes for wisghing/being wished happy birthday and all of that. They're just empty words/gestures.

Empty to you mongo, but not to others who see value in gestures like that and if you can't see that then you lack basic social intelligence, a key symtom of being an Asperger.

Why would you care about someone you barely know wishing you a happy birthday or offering condolences. Noone's gonna live longer or come back from the dead because of a few words... at least not that i know of.

Lichee wrote:you now get more time in prison for editing a thomas the tank engine video than stabbing someone in the throat. The video is imaginary, you don't have to watch it, you don't have to take offence. The guy who made it was just lonely and sad.

But the fb memorial pages are bollocks, what's the honest difference between someone taking the piss out of a dead person for attention and someone pretending to have actually been their friend or given a shit about them for attention? When a girl near me committed suicide and it got on the news her fb page had thousands of likes and comments like 'i didn't know you but you seem like a nice girl from you pictures and i hope you r.i.p'. If that girls death wasn't on the news she wouldn't have gave a shit, she only did because her friends did and at the time all of the local teenage girls did, despite the fact other teenagers her age committed suicide for far far more devastating reasons than the reason she did and yet they didn't get memorial pages set up by people they didn't know.

Here's an idea to everyone getting so angry, make the page private. Or, if it has to be public for whatever reason, ignore the trolls. They're trolls for fuck sake, just grow up a bit.

well said

ultraspatial wrote:

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

No. But that doesn't change the fact that things like this are useless and have little value. The same goes for wisghing/being wished happy birthday and all of that. They're just empty words/gestures.

You can't understand why a grieving parent would like to hear that their child was liked or be told that other people are feeling the same loss? That's quite the lack of empathy!

It's not about bringing the child back it's about raising a smile from a mother crying over her dead baby... burying your child is just about the most emotionally traumatic thing a person can go through (aside from being tortured and raped, I guess).

Humans are sentimental creatures, especially when their kid's just died... and, get this, other people don't feel the same way you do about everything - sometimes you've just got to stand back and say "Nope, don't get it, but it doesn't affect me in the slightest, carry on..." which is a response you don't deserve to be arrested for... unlike deciding that the best course of action is to try and make a sobbing mother cry even more.

I'm struggling not to use the word heartless in this thread. A lot of people seemingly wouldn't care if their own mother was targetted in similar circumstances...

Slightly overly/underly sarcastic post.

Shit troll is shit. Try again when your pubes have grown and you have moved out of your mums gaf.

magma wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

No. But that doesn't change the fact that things like this are useless and have little value. The same goes for wisghing/being wished happy birthday and all of that. They're just empty words/gestures.

You can't understand why a grieving parent would like to hear that their child was liked or be told that other people are feeling the same loss? That's quite the lack of empathy!

It's not about bringing the child back it's about raising a smile from a mother crying over her dead baby... burying your child is just about the most emotionally traumatic thing a person can go through (aside from being tortured and raped, I guess).

Humans are sentimental creatures, especially when their kid's just died... and, get this, other people don't feel the same way you do about everything.

I never stated that everyone thinks like me. I'm just curios to why would people enjoy these sort of things.
And yeah, I guess i do lack empathy. But death is a part of life, be it natural or traumatic.
Also, I don't get why you would call me austistic because of this, I'm not calling anyone shallow or anything.

magma wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:Still don't see the point for such things. Heartwarming comments and condolences don't really help with anything, they're just social formalities.

Are you an Asperger?

No. But that doesn't change the fact that things like this are useless and have little value. The same goes for wisghing/being wished happy birthday and all of that. They're just empty words/gestures.

You can't understand why a grieving parent would like to hear that their child was liked or be told that other people are feeling the same loss? That's quite the lack of empathy!

It's not about bringing the child back it's about raising a smile from a mother crying over her dead baby... burying your child is just about the most emotionally traumatic thing a person can go through (aside from being tortured and raped, I guess).

Humans are sentimental creatures, especially when their kid's just died... and, get this, other people don't feel the same way you do about everything - sometimes you've just got to stand back and say "Nope, don't get it, but it doesn't affect me in the slightest, carry on..." which is a response you don't deserve to be arrested for... unlike deciding that the best course of action is to try and make a sobbing mother cry even more.

I'm struggling not to use the word heartless in this thread. A lot of people seemingly wouldn't care if their own mother was targetted in similar circumstances...

Magma you have a whole new level of respect from me after reading your posts in this thread.

ultraspatial wrote:Also, I don't get why you would call me austistic because of this, I'm not calling anyone shallow or anything.

I didn't - check the names of the posters.