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Garage is garage, just because something was made in 2010 doesnt mean its anything different.

i feel what whistla is saying, and I am a huge fan of the music and his label

i think my only beef with the term "future garage" is that it sometimes attempts to take my favorite styles of dubstep and rebrand them as something else... like burial & what not. to me, burial is dubstep at its finest, but to others it's something else entirely or an offshoot of the style... that's fine

ultimately it doesn't matter what u call it, sounds good either way

New VVV Album "Across The Sea" is pretty good contemporary garage mixed up with a few other styles by the way (on Fortified Audio).

There's no tune, or even producer for that matter, that split the scenes. Just like there is not one exact tune that split dubstep from garage, or grime from garage or even brostep from dubstep. You can break it down to a few producers I guess, but you can't really point the finger at just one individual, or one song or whatever. It's just a constant progression.

wolf89 wrote:

doonedave wrote:

nakedlunch wrote:I don't even listen to tunes sent to me from producers that describe them as 'future' ....... <--- insert genre.

dont meant they aren't good tunes.

They usually won't be though. The people spending time branding their music something like that or making up wanky terms rather than saying they make just dubstep or just garage or house or whatever are usually making painfully dull tunes that are trying too hard to be all deep or cutting edge when they're really just lifeless tunes with clicky percussion or played out pad sounds over dull sub bass line

That's the idea someone has with music they don't understand. I remember when i first heard Dubstep, i didn't know it was called that, i labeled the genre as Breakbeat cuz i didn't know any better. I only heard a couple tunes which i liked but most, like Digital Mystikz, i thought were, to quote you "painfully dull.. lifeless.. with clicky percussion or played out pad sounds over dull sub bass line". It wasn't until a year really into it, liking brostep tunes first and even grime that i got back to the first tunes i heard, like Digital Mystikz. Only then i understood the feeling and soul.

Re-branding it Future Garage makes sense because you can distance yourself somewhat from the UKG brand, which makes the general public think of Bo Selecta and Neutrino shooting himself in the leg. But really there's no difference, that mix in my sig is stuff from over the past 12 years and really it's the same shit.

feasible_weasel wrote: or even this lol it wouldnt work, its too fast

Was this ever released?

Whatever it is pigeon holed as I will always love and appreciate it. All my favourite producers at some point have been influenced and made similar sounding tunes, I also find it more forward thinking than 90% of the generic releases out there. Wiley had similar thoughts about his sound some years ago...