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DubMikey wrote:Here's some 87 BPM drums.

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freakin punchy man!

Hey guys i've seen a couple of tutorials made by dance music production on drums for electronic dance music but they seem to be very active with various claps, open hi hats, closed hi hats, shakers, etc. I was wondering how active should the drums be when it comes to making dubstep, particularly brostep because i'm all about the mid range madness. Besides the kick and snare what would be ideal to have in a drum pattern?

Lots of ghost piccalo snares pon the triplets. Do this in like, every bro tune I make...

Looooaaads of non-drum-percussive sounds if your writing bro too... lots of little whooshes and whishes and timestretchy things and funky gunshot percussion sounds and explosions every few bars and blehblehblehbleh...

Fill the hell out of the 16s, like, bunch of little white noise hats in there... the energy is in the 16s, and the dj matches to the 16s, just make sure they arent overwhealming in the mix...

In brostep, dont overdo the kick and the snare. Big mistake people make out the bat... Make them clear, and punchy/snappy, but dont overdo it on raw volume, and dont confuse good transient punch with loud db, they are 2 different things... with brostep alot of the rhythm is gonna come from the midrange bass as well as the drums, and having a kick/snare that 5 db louder then everything else in your mix and does nothing but bang away on the 1/3, ruin a track everytime, take the gel right out of your mixes.

Get some damn breakbeats in there somewhere.

Lots of crashes and rides...

Yeah use alot of drums though. EDM is all bout the rhythms. You can have a wicked melody, put a shit bland rhythm under it, it wont be shit.

why not just listen to some songs you like and figure out what they're doing

there's no set way to do your drums
do them how YOU want to do them

MORE COWBELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

simplicity and clarity. a few good hats will take you a long way. as mentioned previously, swooshes and reversed FX, kicks etc will be winners. Use track delay or nudge notes to create groove. Build your phrase into 8 and 16 bar variants. Double time, etc.

some people are very good at making drumlines...

anyone produces drums like these?

^^ I wish! When I actually play my kit or tap on random objects, I like to overdo that swing/triplet stuff as a challenge. But producing it seems harder haha. Maybe some pads and sampler would help? Also you could try slowing down that song to better analyze the rhythm.
I think with drums it helps to 'feel' out the different sounds and how they sound together as phrases. You can also think of the different drums as vocal sounds and see how they come together pitch/frequency/timbre-wise. Like I would vocalize the typical drum n bass beat as "doo ssss cha sippa sippa doo cha", where the sippa sound is the hi hat and then ghost snare. So you can rearrange each of those sounds of combinations of the sounds to come up with ideas. That's something I do when I'm away from the computer.

Today I tried making some dnb/techstep/skullstep/current value style beats and here's the result:
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What do you guys think?

I laughed so fucking hard at basic A's post. Dude deserves a medal

but im drunk as fuck

Edit: Artie those drums hit hard as fuck! Loving it. Nice work man.

Artie those drums are pretty sick, the last part of mary had a little lamb took away from the seriousness though lol. just make sure when you add other things in there like melodies your bring the drums down some cause it looks like they hitting pretty hot

Thanks guys! Now that I think about it I should've done the crank that soldier boy steel drum melody I had squashed them even harder at first and decided to make parallel send tracks for the original drum sounds like a backwards parallel compression thing to restore the transients. lol Ya so far this was just drums so I let them take up all the headroom.

that's a sick riddim man, i like the reverb you using too
nice snappy snare
kick sounds a little plastic to me, maybe too much mid/top.
cool feel with the hats and accents

Anyone care to shed some light on Ital Tek sounding drums



his percussion is top notch and i watch interviews with him where he goes over it, but when i try and imitate this style, they feel to regimented and present

if youre trying to recreate blawans percussion check out komanazmuks masterclass. you might have to do some searching for it. this is the track he talks about in it Soundcloud the percussion is not to different from blawans

Will do

THESE DRUMS OMG .

but seriously, the "kicks" sound so thin in tinny BUT they still pack a punch, like a tiny little bullet hitting you, its hard to explain, and DAT SNARE omg.
whats the best way to stretch out that snare like that? im aware you have to have the raw sample with that "snare drum ring" , i have samples like that but how does he stretch it out like that?

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Some of the drums in this topic are ridiculously good. And I can't really give feedback to others cause I wouldn't know what to say, most sound perfect as they are.

May sound a bit sh!t, but how do you get drums like these (just blaze)
They come in at 0.32 and it's like two drums at once...is it as simple that he's got a snare and put one before it? I tried it and it didn't sound so...?

RandoRando wrote:THESE DRUMS OMG .

but seriously, the "kicks" sound so thin in tinny BUT they still pack a punch, like a tiny little bullet hitting you, its hard to explain, and DAT SNARE omg.
whats the best way to stretch out that snare like that? im aware you have to have the raw sample with that "snare drum ring" , i have samples like that but how does he stretch it out like that?

Here's my approach: A buttload of compression. To get the sustain of it, take your rimshot and slap on something like the George Yohng W1 limiter. On that one, if you turn the threshold all the way down, that's 30dB of compression right there
Or you could you just sample him.
Theres further info in the 'favorite snare thread'. Also check deadly's posts.