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southstar wrote:trap vs juke

Not even comparable.


Also, is Jeezy worth listening to?

Trible wrote:I honestly don't think that Trap music really brings anything "New" to the table. O_o

So brave.

Coming from a guy whose first love is huge hip hip, trap music has always been the worst aspect. Producers like Shawty red, Drumma Boy and especially Lex Luger are actually dope. But they are one trick ponies with little variability. Lesser producers make a monotonous sound with little variation or creativity. Many seem to have very little formal musical training unlike most of the top tier rap producers and it shows. But the most egregious thing was the rappers associated with it. Some of the worst rappers in the history of the genre, came out the damn trap. Young Joc, Oj Da Juiceman, GUCCI MANE (Piece of shit ice cream tattoo having ass). Even Young Jeezy is a barely average rapper. It's the biggest black mark on a long line of black marks on hip hop in the history of the genre.

If dubstep producers can make something out of it that doesn't suck then all power to them. Harlem shake rocks, even Kromestar's Noiz has some of those trap elements when it comes to percussion. But like with hip hop, it's going to get old FAST.

Soul Of Seun wrote:But like with hip hop, it's going to get old FAST

what does this even mean? hiphop far outlasts all but the most classic of electronic music, some of freshest hiphop is 20 years old now and still sounds sick

rayman612 wrote:A whole lot of threads about trap music seem to be springing up everywhere at the moment. What are your thoughts? Personally, I think one of them serves a purpose, but 3 every week is goddamn awful.

murky21 wrote:

Soul Of Seun wrote:But like with hip hop, it's going to get old FAST

what does this even mean? hiphop far outlasts all but the most classic of electronic music, some of freshest hiphop is 20 years old now and still sounds sick

rayman612 wrote:A whole lot of threads about trap music seem to be springing up everywhere at the moment. What are your thoughts? Personally, I think one of them serves a purpose, but 3 every week is goddamn awful.

You completely misunderstood me. I said TRAP MUSIC will get old.

everything gets old with time....

Its not like its hard to produce, ive made trap beats that sound really good on imaschine on my phone.

SCope13 wrote:

southstar wrote:trap vs juke

Not even comparable.

BLACK PEOPLE in AMERICA have been making those for over a decade. And white dudes from the UK have just discovered it this afternoon and think their drum sounds are revolutionary (what's that shit called? Ate Oh Ate? what?). I'd say they're the exact same thing.

smokeybeenz wrote:Its not like its hard to produce, ive made trap beats that sound really good on imaschine on my phone.

yea we all can... but im fairly certain you couldnt get away with trying to sell that shit, or even play it on a system.

Nevalo wrote:everything gets old with time....

Thats deep.

pkay wrote:

Phigure wrote:

EliteLennon117 wrote:)"

But even as good as some people seem to think Baauer is he's still light years behind bedroom producers in southern hip hop heavy cities. You can go to any Arab or Asian run gas station in the south, pick up random local hip hop mix tape with random local producer, and have way better "trap" tunes with far less cheese involved.
Flosstradamus and baauer do much better not following that "trap" formula. Same with Hudmo imo.

If that is really the case, why are they not massive?
I mean music is pretty much global now so if these cool as fuck bedroom producers dont know how to use soundcloud to get people to listen to their stuff Im not really sure what to say?

Some examples would be pretty sweet actually? and I mean if you can just go to any old gas staion and find stuff it shouldnt be too hard right?

but hey your Dubstep fourms own Trap Champion™ fighting the good fight against the invisible enemy "fake trap" and its hordes of mindless fans with brilliant lines such as "this shit is old and not real trap" "Oh they are like 20 years late and fake wanna bes"

Usually I just ignore it but after awhile I kind of wonder why you bother chatting about it so much if you hate it so much you know?

Oh well I welcome our new Juke overlords

Genevieve wrote: thinking it's on some plebeian uncultured shit. But watch them eat this shit up like ecstasy at a warehouse party when that shit gets released by white dudes on a hipster label like Warp.

Yeah but Lunice is black tho

Johnlenham wrote:

pkay wrote:

Phigure wrote:

EliteLennon117 wrote:)"

But even as good as some people seem to think Baauer is he's still light years behind bedroom producers in southern hip hop heavy cities. You can go to any Arab or Asian run gas station in the south, pick up random local hip hop mix tape with random local producer, and have way better "trap" tunes with far less cheese involved.
Flosstradamus and baauer do much better not following that "trap" formula. Same with Hudmo imo.

If that is really the case, why are they not massive?
I mean music is pretty much global now so if these cool as fuck bedroom producers dont know how to use soundcloud to get people to listen to their stuff Im not really sure what to say?

Some examples would be pretty sweet actually? and I mean if you can just go to any old gas staion and find stuff it shouldnt be too hard right?

but hey your Dubstep fourms own Trap Champion™ fighting the good fight against the invisible enemy "fake trap" and its hordes of mindless fans with brilliant lines such as "this shit is old and not real trap" "Oh they are like 20 years late and fake wanna bes"

Usually I just ignore it but after awhile I kind of wonder why you bother chatting about it so much if you hate it so much you know?

Oh well I welcome our new Juke overlords

Genevieve wrote: thinking it's on some plebeian uncultured shit. But watch them eat this shit up like ecstasy at a warehouse party when that shit gets released by white dudes on a hipster label like Warp.

Yeah but Lunice is black tho

because they're not white kids from the suburbs wearing sweaters to nightclubs hyping up trap on pitchfork. Whether you admit it or not, trap has nothing to do with musical authenticity. It's a fad, a lifestyle accessory, and has no basis in musical talent.

If we were talking purely on talent then Drumma Boy would be the biggest name in Trap hands down... but we're not so he's not. We're talking about hipsters, in hipster venues, blogging on hipster blogs, about other hipster shit.

Also pkay, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but you're kinda coming off as if white kids (such as myself) can't enjoy hip hop.

SCope13 wrote:





Also pkay, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but you're kinda coming off as if white kids (such as myself) can't enjoy hip hop.

He isn't. I think he's saying that white kids only started to think that 'trap' is legitemate the moment white people hyped it up, started making it and started releasing it on labels owned by white people.

Yeah, I got that, but I was pointing out that he could kinda be interpreted that way.

yeh fuck white people

K, so I've been listening to Jeezy's Trap or Die mixtape and I'm trying to decide if I should feel guilty for liking it or not.

Genevieve wrote:

SCope13 wrote:

southstar wrote:trap vs juke

Not even comparable.

BLACK PEOPLE in AMERICA have been making those for over a decade. And white dudes from the UK have just discovered it this afternoon and think their drum sounds are revolutionary (what's that shit called? Ate Oh Ate? what?). I'd say they're the exact same thing.

like there arent any black producers from the uk

and as if 808 kits have only just been made available to us. Its the Dubstep twist that has propelled this sound to the next level. everybody knows this. Hip Hop is nothing new, whether your from russia/uk/ukraine.

And on that note...weve been making dubstep over here for over decade. a few americans have only discovered "wubs" in last few years and now look whats left of one of the best electronic sub genres. so call it payback

what dubstep twist

old 3 6 or tommy wright iii tunes have more grime elements than uz