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Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:52 am
by JBoy
SCope13 wrote:
lol people believing quotes from a movie character
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:53 am
by Terpit
blind faith ftw!
fuck facts
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:56 am
by Dub_freak
JBoy wrote:SCope13 wrote:
lol people believing quotes from a movie character
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:05 pm
by Terpit
Colleague just told me to read up on Islam, it might convert me, ill go to hell otherwise.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:10 pm
by Dub_freak
Terpit wrote:Colleague just told me to read up on Islam, it might convert me, ill go to hell otherwise.
Tell them to read up on Christianity, it might convert them, they'll go to hell otherwise

Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:11 pm
by JBoy
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:12 pm
by Terpit
Dub_freak wrote:Terpit wrote:Colleague just told me to read up on Islam, it might convert me, ill go to hell otherwise.
Tell them to read up on Christianity, it might convert them, they'll go to hell otherwise

Hes actually quite a clever bloke but he really things that im missing out on life coz im atheist, funny coz i feel the same way about him.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:15 pm
by JBoy
chistianity + islam = judaism. Anyone with a brain can work that out.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:17 pm
by Terpit
JBoy wrote:chistianity + islam = judaism. Anyone with a brain can work that out.
Anyone with a brain would be agnostic/atheist

Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:23 pm
by JBoy
Or should i say, christianity and islam are different interpretations of judaism. The world is busy fighting itself over a set of beliefs that stemmed from the same idea.
(awaits essay from magma)
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:35 pm
by Today
ya the big 3 monotheistic abrahamic religions are the same god
and we jews are the OG chosen ones
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:39 pm
by scspkr99
They really aren't.
They share references primarily considered as being of the Abram tradition (Abraham, Ibrahim and Avraham being the same person)
There are pretty significant differences though. The New Testament isn't important in any way to Judaism nor is the Koran. All three reference the Old Testament but the Torah has only 5 books from genesis through to dueteronomy.
The world is busy fighting itself because there are a lot of dickheads. If people weren't fighting over theological interpretation (it does happen just not as often as claimed) they'd be fighting over something else.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:46 pm
by Today
scspkr99 wrote:
There are pretty significant differences though. The New Testament isn't important in any way to Judaism nor is the Koran. All three reference the Old Testament but the Torah has only 5 books from genesis through to dueteronomy.
i didn't say they were the exact same thing
but it's still the same god... allah, adonai etc
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:48 pm
by scspkr99
Yeah I was referencing Jboy, they aren't the same though they share a common heritage, there's a difference.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:08 pm
by PinUp
One thing I find interesting about religion/faith is that many cultures from across the globe stretching way back through history have some sort of notion of god/gods. Incas and Inuits wouldn't have had contact before yet they both have their own version of gods who they believe to be more powerful than themselves.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:09 pm
by SCope13
PinUp wrote:One thing I find interesting about religion/faith is that many cultures from across the globe stretching way back through history have some sort of notion of god/gods. Incas and Inuits wouldn't have had contact before yet they both have their own version of gods who they believe to be more powerful than themselves.
Because man needs an easy explanation for all the stuff we don't understand.
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:16 pm
by scspkr99
SCope13 wrote:Because man needs an easy explanation for all the stuff we don't understand.
I don't think it's that simple and I think theological arguments can be quite complex.
It's arguably a part of it but not the main part and not the part that's important
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:25 pm
by PinUp
SCope13 wrote:PinUp wrote:One thing I find interesting about religion/faith is that many cultures from across the globe stretching way back through history have some sort of notion of god/gods. Incas and Inuits wouldn't have had contact before yet they both have their own version of gods who they believe to be more powerful than themselves.
Because man needs an easy explanation for all the stuff we don't understand.
I understand that but I find it fascinating how so many different cultures came up with such similar explanations
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:39 pm
by scspkr99
They're only superficially similar though unless they share a heritage of sorts.
Like if you're a primitive people your limited with the amount of stuff you can worship really. The absence of infinite choice makes an overlap inevitable
Re: Scientific evidence for God existence.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:47 pm
by magma
JBoy wrote:Or should i say, christianity and islam are different interpretations of judaism. The world is busy fighting itself over a set of beliefs that stemmed from the same idea.
(awaits essay from magma)
Nope, I think you just about covered it. It's the classic Abrahamic Trilogy:
Judaism: An Exodus Story
Judaism 2: The Forgiving
Judaism 3: The Reckoning