I feel like I could really take my productions to the next level if I could master this bass. I think the main problem is not knowing what type of waveform to use. Sine doesn't have enough harmonics, square has too many. Saw and triangle just sound wrong. It also sounds like there's some enveloping/movement in the bass (especially in Mud VIP) that I can't quite get down right.
Here is my best shot at it. I used the drum pattern from the Loefah tune just to put it in context, but I only want to figure the bass out. It just sounds weak and feels like it doesn't have enough harmonics but if I add ANY harmonics or open the filter even a tiny bit, it sounds like waaaaaay too much midrange.
Sine wave from Sylenth -> LP filter -> volume LFO -> EQ -> different types of distortion/compression -> more lowpassing & subtractive high shelf
Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:53 am
by Hashkey
I'm gonna try replicate the sound. Will give you updates let's see with what I come up.
There are various sounds on that track could you be more precise?
meanwhile I tried replicating loofah's mud. Soundcloud
Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:02 am
by titchbit
In Mud VIP? If you listen to the track and then my soundcloud clip you will see what sound I'm after cause the rhythm and everything is the same. That's why I put the drum beat in there to give it the context. You will see. But it's the wobbly sub/low-mid bass that goes "wuh wuh wuh wuh.... wuh wuh wuh wuh"
In Kromestar tune it's the wobbly sub/low-mid again.
Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:46 am
by nowaysj
Search for these terms with poster name Serox, in production.
SunkLo wrote:Just automate a sine's volume into a saturator, or automate the drive of the saturator itself. And/or automate a lowpass filter.
yeah that's pretty much what I did, maybe i'm just overthinking this way too much. hashkey's sounds pretty similar to mine and he's pretty happy with it. it actually sounds like it has less mids but i feel like i'm missing part of the mids or some kind of enveloping/movement. Maybe a little vocaly even? maybe i'm just never happy with what I make for whatever reason. although nice tip on automating the saturation amount I didn't think of that. you can LFO the distortion amount in sylenth, i'll try that.
Also maybe the mids will come out more in the mastering process. It just sounds unattainable for some reason. Really bothering me.
If you click on the link you can see "Loefah - M..." The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement. DubstepTunez I bet. He had a lot of the Loefah classics...
C'mon what other loefah tune begins with M???
Besides Midnight
Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:38 am
by Hashkey
dubunked wrote:Ahh my bad I forgot about sharing private SC links:
Too bad a lot of people on the sound design got away from this kind of stuff. From the posts I read it was big in 2011
By the Way I used in Massive Just an OSC with Sine/Square Exactly in the middle, And LFO on the filter lowpass,some dimension expander Thats All. Processing: scooped out some 500 and added a FF saturn Basic Saturator, Then Echo Boy with 1/16th note on SpaceEcho setting, almost fully saturated.
SunkLo wrote:Just automate a sine's volume into a saturator, or automate the drive of the saturator itself. And/or automate a lowpass filter.
yeah that's pretty much what I did, maybe i'm just overthinking this way too much. hashkey's sounds pretty similar to mine and he's pretty happy with it. it actually sounds like it has less mids but i feel like i'm missing part of the mids or some kind of enveloping/movement. maybe i'm just never happy with what I make for whatever reason. although nice tip on automating the saturation amount I didn't think of that. you can LFO the distortion amount in sylenth, i'll try that.[/quote]
The problem I have very often too is over think these kind of sounds when in reality they are pretty simple Sine/square/saws XD.
Have you ever lost hours just messing with WT and ending up with...nothing?
Will try automating the saturator and volume, tomorrow I'll post the results ! need some sleep, nice tip.
Re: The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:04 pm
by Hashkey
Hey Dub I think I nailed a kind of mid range bass I heard in a youngsta track.
And Some kind of biome reese.