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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:35 pm
by press
the thing that really gets me with this broad is she has only been out of the country once in her life (not including canada but that cant really count). wow what an enlightened world view you must have!

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:01 pm
by little boh peep
Nice to see the abstinence-only rhetoric she spouts worked out so well for her daughter!

The general reactions in this thread give me hope for the future. No sarcasm.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:22 pm
by bellybelle
Little Boh Peep wrote:Nice to see the abstinence-only rhetoric she spouts worked out so well for her daughter!
Yeah the abstinence-only plan hasn't proven to be successful at all. After it was implemented in Texas schools, teen pregnancies skyrocketed. And now, 1 in 4 teen girls in the US have or have had an STI.

I was hoping to see no correlation between rates of STI/Teen pregnancy and the party in office. It might still be coincidental...but higher rates of these always happen while we have a Republican president. The blind hope that limiting access to education and contraception would curtail sexual behavior is idealistic at best.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:28 pm
by slim
Tomity wrote:
Slothrop wrote:
Tomity wrote:A name is just a name. Labour are now for example, far more right wing than the Tories ever were.
I hate nu-lab as much as the next guy, but that just isn't true. At the moment they're all vying for the middle ground, but Thatcher was somewhere to the right of Ghengis Khan.
The middle ground is a term they've come up with. It basically means all the parties are right wing. Maggie did an awful lot of damage but Labour haven't changed her policies, they've just continued them. We are in a situation now where the NHS is going private, the schools are being taken over by companies and most of the social care and councils aren't too far behind. On top of that poverty is rising and all of our fundamental rights have been taken away. In the 80's you could still have a protest, its not even legal now...
This is so true, lots of people think i am just being all pissy and commie when i describe new labour as being thatcherites, but if you look at what they are doing...

Same with china, not that i really have had any respect for their government since... forever, but that is about as far from socialism as you can really get.

As someone who is hoping to live and work for a fair amount of time in the states, i am seriously hoping this woman gets nowhere near the white house. I can't say i'm madly in love with obama, but anyone who advocates teaching creationism in schools needs a slap.

Plus she brings mccain with her, who is a fairly despicable "person" to say the least

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:45 pm
by nesslei
Little Boh Peep wrote:Nice to see the abstinence-only rhetoric she spouts worked out so well for her daughter!
my thoughts exactly. and now she's parading daughter and husband-to-be around like show ponies.

:?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:53 pm
by oddfellow
Slim wrote: people think i am just being all pissy and commie when i describe new labour as being thatcherites, but if you look at what they are doing...
"Maggie: Her Fatal Legacy was published earlier this month and opens with Blair voicing his own admiration for Thatcher and revealing that he had been in "reasonably regular" contact with her throughout his premiership. More tellingly, the PM reveals to Sergeant that Thatcher proved invaluable during the Kosovo crisis of 1999 when, having agreed to launch a joint US-UK air attack on Serb forces, Blair faced mounting international criticism. Thatcher told him to ignore the carping, stay resolute and get the job done."

- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... i_n9724446

Slim wrote: Same with china, not that i really have had any respect for their government since... forever, but that is about as far from socialism as you can really get.
Apart from Russia (and only for a few years under Lenin) there has never been a socialist/communist state. It makes me laugh when people say china is a communist state. They're the worlds biggest exporters of genuine tat.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:32 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
Ashley wrote:Condoleezza Rice should be president.
Image

:lol:

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:58 pm
by prisoner
gwa wrote:Oh yeah whats the crack with the loft?? And how come its tonight and not tomorrow?
im on 10-11 (sent ya a pm).

it's not zak's night tonight, it somebody else's just using his sound/the loft.

good times ahead! make it if you can!

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:10 am
by starkey
video on john mccain at the rnc on right now. 95% about war.

p.s. glad i was the one who started this thread. haha.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:30 am
by starkey
mccain's speech so far.... absolutely no substance. sounds like a speech written by some 10 year old kid.

"I'm great. I don't like special interests. We are tough. We will shake up Washington. You are struggling. I fight lobbyists. I fight tobacco companies. I fight union bosses. U S A ! U S A ! U S A ! Oh... and I continue to fight for our soldiers abroad. I care about each and every one of you."

give me a break.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:43 am
by hera
im pro gun and im fighting urges of shooting a 9mm hole in the tv

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:57 am
by selector.dub.u
:u:

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:35 pm
by samsupa
Bit from a radio show i listen to on satellite. Its based on Rage Against the Machines anti-bush speech at that one gig but taken too far. NSFW audio but its funny as hell.....as a bonus i added the decider a skit about bush as a super hero...lols here is some relief from this weeks rnc crap fest.........for the friday lolz


part 1-http://www.oneroninproductions.com/music/Eragb001.mp3
part 2-http://www.oneroninproductions.com/music/eragb002.mp3
part 3-http://www.oneroninproductions.com/music/Eragb003.mp3

decider - http://www.oneroninproductions.com/music/edecider.mp3

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:47 pm
by phobang
starkey wrote:oh great. and now we've got some country singers on stage giving the pledge of allegiance. someone shoot me.
I'd hit it. She's everyone's dirty little Republican nightmare, and she puts out. At least they didn't nominate Ann Coulter brother.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:50 pm
by gwa
No more riots, can go downtown again. Great!

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:26 pm
by dj cal cutta
Fuck the entire GOP for the arrest of Amy Goodman, I make it my mission in life to avenge such absurdity.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:27 pm
by phobang
DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Fuck the entire GOP for the arrest of Amy Goodman, I make it my mission in life to avenge such absurdity.
by getting arrested for making statements that could be considered to be threatening towards "the man" and their evil purpose?

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:37 pm
by seckle
fox news is the biggest circus imaginable. i can't believe that they have the audacity to say that their convention was "victorious". this convention just underlined the divide in not only morality in thsi country, but in the basic notion of dissent, and what it means to be a citizen that chooses to dissent. i feel that "family values" is sort of the paint that the republicans use to coat over everything they do, no matter how ugly it can be.

complete disgrace.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:03 pm
by dj cal cutta
phobang wrote:
DJ Cal Cutta wrote:Fuck the entire GOP for the arrest of Amy Goodman, I make it my mission in life to avenge such absurdity.
by getting arrested for making statements that could be considered to be threatening towards "the man" and their evil purpose?
no, I'll kill a motherfucker to make a difference

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:04 pm
by phobang
seckle wrote:fox news is the biggest circus imaginable. i can't believe that they have the audacity to say that their convention was "victorious". this convention just underlined the divide in not only morality in thsi country, but in the basic notion of dissent, and what it means to be a citizen that chooses to dissent. i feel that "family values" is sort of the paint that the republicans use to coat over everything they do, no matter how ugly it can be.

complete disgrace.
you're dissenting right now.

the odds you won't be able to talk about the problems we face are long... you'll pretty much always have the right to be angry... the question is whether or not you can do anything about it...

the Conventions are for a few different reasons. to elect a candidate and fire up your electoral base. mission accomplished on both parts. All the polls up north are closing in, and all the American polling is looking pretty tight. It's not won by a longshot. Unfortunately I can't vote.

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/