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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:30 pm
by badger
mate PM dubway... end of

this has absolutely nothing to do with us as users. take it up with the owner

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:31 pm
by phobang
badger wrote:mate PM dubway... end of

this has absolutely nothing to do with us as users. take it up with the owner
it has a lot to do with the users. without us, they sit here and talk to themselves.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:32 pm
by badger
yes but we have nothing to do with the running of the site. surely the fact that most people don't really care tells you something?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:46 pm
by misk
it seems to me, phobang, that you're not going to get anywhere with this by approaching people in a thread. perhaps talking to the mods by way of PMs would yield a more positive result? speaking to the people in this forum, in a defensive way, is only going to cause an offensive reaction in the crowd.

Sure the emperor's clothes are a little thin, (whose aren't?) but you never get anywhere trying to expose him to the crowd that adores him, do you?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:58 pm
by phobang
Misk wrote:it seems to me, phobang, that you're not going to get anywhere with this by approaching people in a thread. perhaps talking to the mods by way of PMs would yield a more positive result? speaking to the people in this forum, in a defensive way, is only going to cause an offensive reaction in the crowd.

Sure the emperor's clothes are a little thin, (whose aren't?) but you never get anywhere trying to expose him to the crowd that adores him, do you?
The emperor knows he wears no clothes. It's the public who need to be informed, not him.

Everyone is so content to take whatever they get, which is why you Americans haven't done shit, while Martial law is declared and your government just socialized your ENTIRE economy... umm...

read the declaration of independence sometime, and I think you'll see where I'm going...
all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
See, people are inclined to keep their mouths shut, rather than make waves. Those people take whatever they get. I take what I want and leave the rest. Unfortunately, there are a few things lacking and I am ready to provide them post haste.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:05 pm
by blizzardmusic
ffs.

Nobody has complained about anything on the forum.

If it did, none of your advice would be took in to account.

Dubstepforum isn't supposed to be flambuoyant and have loads of features, it's just for talking.

And stop bragging on about VBulletin.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:06 pm
by von
BlizzardMusic wrote:ffs.

Nobody has complained about anything on the forum.

If it did, none of your advice would be took in to account.

Dubstepforum isn't supposed to be flambuoyant and have loads of features, it's just for talking.

And stop bragging on about VBulletin.
lawl

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:11 pm
by misk
now you're calling dubway evil. burn a bridge.

and meanwhile, i am my government.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:15 pm
by seckle
phobang wrote:
Misk wrote:it seems to me, phobang, that you're not going to get anywhere with this by approaching people in a thread. perhaps talking to the mods by way of PMs would yield a more positive result? speaking to the people in this forum, in a defensive way, is only going to cause an offensive reaction in the crowd.

Sure the emperor's clothes are a little thin, (whose aren't?) but you never get anywhere trying to expose him to the crowd that adores him, do you?
The emperor knows he wears no clothes. It's the public who need to be informed, not him.

Everyone is so content to take whatever they get, which is why you Americans haven't done shit, while Martial law is declared and your government just socialized your ENTIRE economy... umm...

read the declaration of independence sometime, and I think you'll see where I'm going...
all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
See, people are inclined to keep their mouths shut, rather than make waves. Those people take whatever they get. I take what I want and leave the rest. Unfortunately, there are a few things lacking and I am ready to provide them post haste.
i hope you have some really good websites online right now to match all this web wizardry you keep claiming to have? now that you're publicly campaigning for changes, its only fair that i publicly ask for more info about the services you're offering and the results online at the moment. .

can i see an example of your own v bulletin work?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:24 pm
by misk
where'd he go? i too, would like to see some wizardry.

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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:25 pm
by seckle
you can link me privately as well if you're not confident enough to link online. i really want to see your work, as we're always looking for good ideas. link me to a v bulletin forum now (not something that you whip up in 24hours either...) where you're a moderator or admin. cheers.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:35 pm
by elgato
phobang wrote:read the declaration of independence sometime, and I think you'll see where I'm going...
all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
See, people are inclined to keep their mouths shut, rather than make waves. Those people take whatever they get. I take what I want and leave the rest. Unfortunately, there are a few things lacking and I am ready to provide them post haste.
surely this is a joke? are you genuinely trying to say that that is an appropriate comparison?

on a general level i feel that the way you approached this issue is the cause of the hostile response you've received. you can have no idea about the people who run this forum, and no context to understand what this is, but from what i can see you waded in making accusations about profiteering, then making demands, not requests, as if its like a civil liberty to have embedded mp3s!

but i guess progress is an immutable moral imperative yeh?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:51 pm
by black lotus
take the rules from the something awful forums so people will stop crying over stupid things, or they will be banned for stupidity. but it becomes a police state then.

there are so many different forums and each have their own rules. some are more strict than others. there are forums where if you post something like "hi i'm new here!" you will be brutally made fun of for being such a retarded newb. "lurk more" is actually something i stand behind, for the most part.

imo, the forums are pretty good the way they are, as far as web forums go. i just wish people used better grammar. also, i wish "me too!" posts would go away, but they usually don't.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:51 pm
by __________
its already easy to find, share, download, promote, sell or get help with music on this forum.

i see no way that you could change it to make it easier.

forums are for talking. end of. no need for shiny bells and whistles. some people are still on 56k modems, has that crossed your mind?

90% of people don't give a fuck anyway. you're wasting your time mate

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:52 pm
by gwa
Anyone on a 56K modem deserves to be shot tho.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:54 pm
by __________
people that live in areas that can't get broadband deserve to be shot?
poor people deserve to be shot?

riiiiight :lol:

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:55 pm
by gwa
Last time i checked 56K was quite pricey / broadband costs as little as 10 quid a month, what area of england can't get broadband?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:04 pm
by fooishbar
phobang wrote:it has a lot to do with the users. without us, they sit here and talk to themselves.
that's what this fucking forum is for. jesus.

go give someone else the gift of distraction from talking to each other.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:09 pm
by ashley
gwa wrote:Last time i checked 56K was quite pricey / broadband costs as little as 10 quid a month, what area of england can't get broadband?
Its free from Uk2.net - you just have to pay for the call though.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:12 pm
by gwa
Thats what i meant, the call time. Depends how much you use the internet and if you were on 56K you would hardly be using it for a massive amount of time blahblahblah.