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Those pitch shifting algos are just off the shelf components that all the daws use, would be easy enough to plug the algo into the sampler.

This is true but I wonder about licensing fees.

The Ableton thing is more than just the tempo. Say I want to import a vocal phrase from a motown track. I throw it in the sampler, pitch it into key, but then if I want to stretch it tempo, it goes out of key. Or I have to throw it on an audio track, warp it into place without being able to trigger it from the sampler to try different rhythms, and then render it to a new file on my harddrive. I have to create a new file for every key of my keyboard if I want to be able to play it polyphonically without pulling it out of time. Even more files if I want to chop it up and have different parts stretched by differing amounts. Would be so much easier to have separate controls for tuning and stretching in the sampler and being able to dial in the keymapping for both separately.

this is why i don't work with audio very much in ableton.

I use the ableton sampler a lot and i kinda like how it speeds up and slows down i kinda like digital error, if you know what i mean



If you guys do make a drum machine i'll be your Daedalus

JizzMan wrote:i kinda like digital error, if you know what i mean

I do indeed. I know Bud does too. One of the things about the sp-404sx - deliciously durty time/pitch shifting.

SunkLo wrote:This is true but I wonder about licensing fees.

The Ableton thing is more than just the tempo. Say I want to import a vocal phrase from a motown track. I throw it in the sampler, pitch it into key, but then if I want to stretch it tempo, it goes out of key. Or I have to throw it on an audio track, warp it into place without being able to trigger it from the sampler to try different rhythms, and then render it to a new file on my harddrive. I have to create a new file for every key of my keyboard if I want to be able to play it polyphonically without pulling it out of time. Even more files if I want to chop it up and have different parts stretched by differing amounts. Would be so much easier to have separate controls for tuning and stretching in the sampler and being able to dial in the keymapping for both separately.

Sounds like normal behaviour for a sampler to me. I remember when I was using hardware samplers having to do stuff like that. Do you know of a sampler out there that will do what you are asking or is this a feature wishlist for something that you are making? Can you not chop it and pitch it using these controls?



I remember having to chop acapellas down to get them to fit.

This week gone quick, should have summin finished by this eve are we pming the tracks to you this time nwj?

Is this thing still going? If so maybe I'll work something up for next week. I've pretty much been dead the last couple months. Would be nice to get back into things again.

mks wrote:Do you know of a sampler out there that will do what you are asking or is this a feature wishlist for something that you are making? Can you not chop it and pitch it using these controls?

Geist does, Kontakt does. It's a super useful feature. Ableton's drum rack/sampler is so well integrated it's a shame that it's lacking this one crucial feature. People have been moaning about it for ages too, I'm really surprised they still haven't added it.

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mks wrote:Do you know of a sampler out there that will do what you are asking or is this a feature wishlist for something that you are making? Can you not chop it and pitch it using these controls?

Geist does, Kontakt does. It's a super useful feature. Ableton's drum rack/sampler is so well integrated it's a shame that it's lacking this one crucial feature. People have been moaning about it for ages too, I'm really surprised they still haven't added it.

Yeah, I've never played around with Kontakt. I really should give it a try one of these days. The only Native Instruments vst I use is Reaktor. I think Ableton really did drop the ball with their sampler.

Mason, yes PM.

JBE, awesome, yeah still going, pm me a track next Saturday!

aight me dawg should be with you in a couple hours

PM'd but I'm working tomorrow so I wont be able to listen till the evening or monday :/

LTUK wrote:PM'd but I'm working tomorrow so I wont be able to listen till the evening or monday :/

Hey dude, didn't get it. Lemme check my inbox I think it may be full. I did just get dfault's.

Got it!

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Hey Bud, is that track up there, or that set? That link is showing dead for me. Am I doing something wrong?

ah fucking soundfuck let me check i might need to make it public again

Godspeed, I'm seeing quadruple.

MASSON, what happened dude?