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hugh wrote:well I'm still not buying it, I really think the writers fucked it up right there.

This was probably conceived before the pilot of the show was even shot. You don't have to like it, but I don't think it was some 'LOL ADD SUSPENSE TO DRAW OUT THE SHOW' type of thing. The show was never intended to jump the shark. Todd said it himself 'you thought of everything!', cue to Walt's self-satisfied grin. Walt DIDN'T think of everything though, including something as SIMPLE as the possinility of there being witnesses, let alone Todd shooting the damn witness.

Genevieve wrote:

hugh wrote:well I'm still not buying it, I really think the writers fucked it up right there.

This was probably conceived before the pilot of the show was even shot. You don't have to like it, but I don't think it was some 'LOL ADD SUSPENSE TO DRAW OUT THE SHOW' type of thing. The show was never intended to jump the shark. Todd said it himself 'you thought of everything!', cue to Walt's self-satisfied grin. Walt DIDN'T think of everything though, including something as SIMPLE as the possinility of there being witnesses, let alone Todd shooting the damn witness.

I dunno, Breaking Bad is the kind of show with a storyline that sort of forces you to suspend disbelief to get into it in the first place. The last thing it needs to do is remind the viewer of this.

Any fans interested in a pencil Walter White? Choose a size and I'll give a [discounted] price.

i recently read a book about psychopathy which mentioned the bob hare psychopath check list, the PCL-R

watching breaking bad today, i realised how much of a complete and utter psycopath walt is in terms of personality (not really in case history)

• -Glibness/superficial charm
  yes
  -Grandiose sense of self-worth
  yes
  -Pathological lying
  yes
  -Cunning/manipulative
  yes
  -Lack of remorse or guilt
  yes
  -Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric)
  yes
  -Callousness; lack of empathy
  yes
  -Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  yes

yoowan wrote:i recently read a book about psychopathy which mentioned the bob hare psychopath check list, the PCL-R

watching breaking bad today, i realised how much of a complete and utter psycopath walt is in terms of personality (not really in case history)

• -Glibness/superficial charm
  yes
  -Grandiose sense of self-worth
  yes
  -Pathological lying
  yes
  -Cunning/manipulative
  yes
  -Lack of remorse or guilt
  yes
  -Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric)
  yes
  -Callousness; lack of empathy
  yes
  -Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  yes

The Psychopath Test i'm guessing???

I've just finished that book and i'm psychopath-spotting all the time now. Great fun, until I realised my girlfriend might be one

But keeping it on topic, Walt definitely ticks all the boxes. Lost all empathy towards him along time ago as these traits became more and more obvious. Who is he really doing all this for now? He's a tnuc. A clever one, but still a tnuc.

yeah!! jon ronson is the man

walt is doing it for himself and thinks that skylar will be impressed with his new meth operation, reuniting the family

-Grandiose sense of self-worth

BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Any fans interested in a pencil Walter White? Choose a size and I'll give a [discounted] price.

did you draw that? It's really good!

yoowan wrote:i recently read a book about psychopathy which mentioned the bob hare psychopath check list, the PCL-R

watching breaking bad today, i realised how much of a complete and utter psycopath walt is in terms of personality (not really in case history)

• -Glibness/superficial charm
  yes
  -Grandiose sense of self-worth
  yes
  -Pathological lying
  yes
  -Cunning/manipulative
  yes
  -Lack of remorse or guilt
  yes
  -Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric)
  yes
  -Callousness; lack of empathy
  yes
  -Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  yes

Heisenberg, Yes. Walt, No.

the show progresses as Walt and Heisenberg become one person, and ultimately, if there is ever a downfall it is when the two become each other and cracks in both show through the altar ego's

Genevieve wrote: The show was never intended to jump the shark.

I recon it was heading that way in season 3 but the writers have sorted it out since then.

Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg

pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg

Yes

Mammoth wrote:

pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg

Yes

Would so love this

pkay wrote:

Mammoth wrote:

pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg

Yes

Would so love this

I was just thinking about in the early episodes all the pictures of Walter with the hat on in Mexico. Hank could easily be a bald guy in a hat

Mammoth wrote:

pkay wrote:

Mammoth wrote:

pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg

Yes

Would so love this

I was just thinking about in the early episodes all the pictures of Walter with the hat on in Mexico. Hank could easily be a bald guy in a hat

so how does anyone in the DEA know anything at all about what Heisenberg looks like...??

or is it anythin to do with the Cartels which have been strangely quiet, tho i spose most of em were killed off

^^^all the stuff about the hats.

Series Finale: Mike, Walt, Jesse. all bald, obviously, wearing hats and glasses. Hank doesn't know who to chase

Hank doesn't know anything about chemistry theres surely no way he could be set up.
I can't see how any of this is going to end well though

Series finale: everyone in new mexico shaves their head and wears a hat after heisenberg blows up the dea's office
criticisms could arise from the fact that it's identical to v for vendetta but whatever

yoowan wrote:Series finale: everyone in new mexico shaves their head and wears a hat after heisenberg blows up the dea's office
criticisms could arise from the fact that it's identical to v for vendetta but whatever

swagswagswagswag

They say Heisenberg was a red Herring to distract from Hank

Thus why tuco brothers came after him and shot him