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Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:55 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
scattybeanhead wrote:lol at the way he says garage. only brits can say garage in relation to the music, sounds dumb otherwise
Innit, UK Garidge, not Gararrrge unless it's Gararrge Band.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:44 pm
by joeki
aside from his awful pronunciation of Burial and UK Garage, that guy has done some good and to the point reviews of a few records in the past.
He knows some of his shit to be fair.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:54 pm
by jsml
Didn't actually listen to the review, I don't get the point of them to be honest. I make my own mind up about music. (This goes for reviews in magazines and stuff too, not just picking on this guy or any other youtube reviewer. If you have ears you shouldn't listen to what anyone else thinks imo).
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:45 pm
by dgibb
jsml wrote:Didn't actually listen to the review, I don't get the point of them to be honest. I make my own mind up about music. (This goes for reviews in magazines and stuff too, not just picking on this guy or any other youtube reviewer. If you have ears you shouldn't listen to what anyone else thinks imo).
Kind of a weird opinion, if you ask me, but to each his own. Do you talk to friends or other musicians about music? You're on a forum, aren't you? The whole idea is just to share insight, and meaning. That youtube guy talked less about the meaning of the songs, and more about what they literally sounded like, but he had some good things to say. 'If you have ears you shouldn't listen to what anyone else thinks' is like saying if you have eyes you shouldn't talk to anyone about any photographs/paintings/etc. Missing the point.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:51 pm
by fractal
LumiNiscent wrote:say_whut wrote:LumiNiscent wrote:vishes wrote:Samādhi wrote:
and never forget that he co-produced a lot of Burial's stuff + gave him initial inspiration with his dj-sets on rinse.fm and his hyperdub-blog.[/size]
I don't get you... Are you saying that Kode9 co-produced some of Burial's tunes and also gave inspiration for Burial's Rinse FM dj sets and Burial's hyperdub blog??
He's saying that the show Kode9 used to have on Rinse and the Hyperdub blog that Kode9 used to write inspired Burial. And he's stating that Kode9 coproduced for Burial, which I doubt.
If memory serves correct, I'm sure K9 as given co production credits on the street halo ep
really ? not saying that I don't believe you, but I've never heard about that and the vinyl doesn't indicate this either
not sure where y'all are getting your info, but it's false
all burial on that ep
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:54 pm
by the_disconekt
There's a difference between a good review that brings up points of discussion and shares thought about the meaning or interpretation of a piece of art, then there's shitty taste making making reviews that are glamourized advertising.
I checked that guy out, he's got good things to say. It didn't change my opinion of the music, but he still has an interesting view. I wish he'd gotten more in depth about why he doesn't really like Ashtray Wasp, that's my favourite tune off the EP.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:01 pm
by jsml
Like I say, I didn't watch it, so I can't say what that particular review is like. Some are better than others.
And of course I like sharing opinions with friends about things both audio and visual, but it's different. It's a back and forth sort of discussion about different elements of the track or whatever with someone who's opinion you respect. I don't consider that the same as reviews because it's written by someone with no connection to you whatsoever who is just talking about whether they liked it or not. I don't think it's relevant. I never read reviews in magazines, on the internet or anything like that.
And I mostly use the forum for info etc, as well as discussing certain things, but again I don't draw that many parallels with reviews.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:15 pm
by fractal
^ i kind of hear what you are saying...
i can't read movie reviews before i see a movie as it often paints a picture before i have a chance to form an opinion
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:18 pm
by garethom
jsml wrote:Like I say, I didn't watch it, so I can't say what that particular review is like. Some are better than others.
And of course I like sharing opinions with friends about things both audio and visual, but it's different. It's a back and forth sort of discussion about different elements of the track or whatever with someone who's opinion you respect. I don't consider that the same as reviews because it's written by someone with no connection to you whatsoever who is just talking about whether they liked it or not. I don't think it's relevant. I never read reviews in magazines, on the internet or anything like that.
And I mostly use the forum for info etc, as well as discussing certain things, but again I don't draw that many parallels with reviews.
A review is just surely somebody sharing their point as "hey, check this out it's good" or "hey, I don't like it", same way one of your mates could say "I like this"/"I don't like this"? Somebody you know saying "check this tune out, it's good" IS a review. Just because they haven't written it on a blog, doesn't mean it isn't one.
You wouldn't ever know about anything if it wasn't for a review in some format. At some point, a label decided that a tune was good enough and thought they'd share it. That's a review too. Somebody liked the tune enough to put it out. Don't see Swamp 81 get called "shitty taste makers" when they're just letting you know about some tunes they thought were good.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:43 pm
by jsml
garethom wrote:A review is just surely somebody sharing their point as "hey, check this out it's good" or "hey, I don't like it", same way one of your mates could say "I like this"/"I don't like this"?
You wouldn't ever know about anything if it wasn't for a review in some format. At some point, a label decided that a tune was good enough and thought they'd share it. That's a review too.
Well, I see what you're getting at but but I disagree. That's an extremely liberal definition of a review. I'm on about reviews in magazines, on youtube or blogs etc. Don't get me wrong I'll read bass music and blackdown's blog and check all the tunes, but don't pay too much attention to their opinion's because musically the only opinion I can count on is mine (I'm sure this is the same for everybody, I mean no disrespect by it). I trust my ears and not anybody's words basically.
fractal wrote:^ i kind of hear what you are saying...
i can't read movie reviews before i see a movie as it often paints a picture before i have a chance to form an opinion
Yeah, that is partly what I'm saying. That's a good way of putting it.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:01 pm
by garethom
jsml wrote: but don't pay too much attention to their opinion's because musically the only opinion I can count on is mine (I'm sure this is the same for everybody, I mean no disrespect by it). I trust my ears and not anybody's words basically.
Oh definitely man. I tend to use reviews more to just become aware of things and get to know a little about it. I mean, if a review is telling me for example, there's 2-step drums and a heavy sub, I know that's something I might be into. If it's telling me it's "ear destroyingly filthy, etc. etc." I know I probably won't. That's what I was getting at.

Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:12 pm
by Marcus
Couldn't resist it, grabbed the FLAC version.
Thanks.

Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:18 pm
by wobbles
joeki wrote:aside from his awful pronunciation of Burial and UK Garage, that guy has done some good and to the point reviews of a few records in the past.
He knows some of his shit to be fair.
its called a different dialect people
jesus
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:41 pm
by joeki
tell that in housing estate and you get murked

Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:03 pm
by wobbles
dont think i wont berry you in my garahge
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:24 pm
by hudson
wobbles wrote:joeki wrote:aside from his awful pronunciation of Burial and UK Garage, that guy has done some good and to the point reviews of a few records in the past.
He knows some of his shit to be fair.
its called a different dialect people
jesus
Yeah, it would sound a million times worse if us westerners put on british accents every time we said "burial" or "garage".
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:49 pm
by BonerJams04
How do brits pronounce burial and garage then.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:55 pm
by ketamine
Reverb wrote:How do brits pronounce burial and garage then.
I'm in Maryland, and I pronounce Garage-Genre different than Garage-Object, because its a proper name for something specic. It's how you prounced the "thing" you're talking about. But then I originally learned it from hearing UK artists.
I suppose however, if I'd first (and only) come across it in print, like others may have, you would pronouce it how you know it.
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:01 pm
by garethom
Reverb wrote:How do brits pronounce burial and garage then.
For me it would be:
Beh-ree-ul
Garridge
I can see the garridge-garahge thing, but how do Americans say burial?
Re: Burial - Kindred
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:02 pm
by jsml
Reverb wrote:How do brits pronounce burial and garage then.
ga - ridge.
posh brits say ga - rarge. but not with a whiny american accent obviously
