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I would prefer to see no actual dubstep.Group22media wrote:Hey, I'm doing market research for a Dubstep project, and I need to know, what Dubstep fans would expect to see in a dubstep video. Please can you reply to this post or message, as this would really help me with my data results.
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Oh yeah, Volor Flex is a special case though. The guy literally says that his albums were a tribute to Burial. Weak argument, but I feel that almost makes him immune from these conversations. Like buying tickets to go and see The Smiths Indeed and moaning they've ripped off The Smiths. Especially on Volor Flex's first album, you can pick the tunes and be like "This tune is a cross of Wounded and Raver.wolf89 wrote:Yeah fair enoughgarethom wrote:Something I've never understood is the level of questioning "burial rip-offs" get compared to others. If you think all these dungeon producers didn't hear One Of Us and think "I wanna make that", you're mistaken. If you think bare producers in the 130 thread aren't just recreating Big Shot, DJ XTC and Youngstar tunes, you're mistaken. If you think Boddika didn't hear Underground Resistance and think he should make that, you're mistaken.
Yeah, people call them on it occasionally, but drop some vinyl crackle or a pitched rnb vocal in your tune, and you get bare bods on here saying you're a rip-off.
If people only want entirely original artists in their collection, well, it's gonna be a very small collection.
but in this case volar flex doesn't sound like a unoriginal tune the way some of those ones. Like using the same sort of bass as big shot or whatever. Literally every element both sonically and in terms of the actual composition of the track sounds like it was done to copy Burial in some of his tracks.
I haven't heard all the Lion Charge stuff but as far as I can tell it still seems to have a very strong dubstep flavour rather than just being straight up dubgarethom wrote:Unpopular opinion time: What's the point of those Lion Charge records? Just basic dub tunes made by producers famous for dubstep.
Will some people only buy records in another genre if they're produced by people who made/make dubstep? Just like people hyping over some of the bait techno made by people that used to make dubstep/garage when it's shit compared to a mountain of other stuff.
Pretty much this also I don't rate 001 that much and would rather have 002 in my collection.particle-jim wrote:I haven't heard all the Lion Charge stuff but as far as I can tell it still seems to have a very strong dubstep flavour rather than just being straight up dubgarethom wrote:Unpopular opinion time: What's the point of those Lion Charge records? Just basic dub tunes made by producers famous for dubstep.
Will some people only buy records in another genre if they're produced by people who made/make dubstep? Just like people hyping over some of the bait techno made by people that used to make dubstep/garage when it's shit compared to a mountain of other stuff.
WAR series?bennyfroobs wrote:agree on that one some of the lion charge tunes are okay but i think that white lavbel serieis of dub tunes bootlegged into dubstep was a lot more interesting (forgot its name, theres loads of em on discogs)
Dungeon all sounds the same so fuck that.garethom wrote:Something I've never understood is the level of questioning "burial rip-offs" get compared to others. If you think all these dungeon producers didn't hear One Of Us and think "I wanna make that", you're mistaken. If you think bare producers in the 130 thread aren't just recreating Big Shot, DJ XTC and Youngstar tunes, you're mistaken. If you think Boddika didn't hear Underground Resistance and think he should make that, you're mistaken.
Yeah, people call them on it occasionally, but drop some vinyl crackle or a pitched rnb vocal in your tune, and you get bare bods on here saying you're a rip-off.
If people only want entirely original artists in their collection, well, it's gonna be a very small collection.
Not talking about everybody in the 130 thread, but there are a lot of people in there just straight ripping old grime tunes and doing nothing that wasn't done to death by 2004.Lye Form wrote:Dungeon all sounds the same so fuck that.garethom wrote:Something I've never understood is the level of questioning "burial rip-offs" get compared to others. If you think all these dungeon producers didn't hear One Of Us and think "I wanna make that", you're mistaken. If you think bare producers in the 130 thread aren't just recreating Big Shot, DJ XTC and Youngstar tunes, you're mistaken. If you think Boddika didn't hear Underground Resistance and think he should make that, you're mistaken.
Yeah, people call them on it occasionally, but drop some vinyl crackle or a pitched rnb vocal in your tune, and you get bare bods on here saying you're a rip-off.
If people only want entirely original artists in their collection, well, it's gonna be a very small collection.
the 130 stuff has a huge amount of variation, i wouldn't say any one producers sounds like another. They do pull huge influences of course but its not at the same level as burialers.
Taking inspiration is one thing, Sangam does from burial but does his own thing.
A good producer re-creating somones tunes with slight variations just seems like a waste of time & effort. That's the stuff you do first year producing.
Nah those dungeon guys are not fooling anybody either.garethom wrote:Not talking about everybody in the 130 thread, but there are a lot of people in there just straight ripping old grime tunes and doing nothing that wasn't done to death by 2004.Lye Form wrote:Dungeon all sounds the same so fuck that.garethom wrote:Something I've never understood is the level of questioning "burial rip-offs" get compared to others. If you think all these dungeon producers didn't hear One Of Us and think "I wanna make that", you're mistaken. If you think bare producers in the 130 thread aren't just recreating Big Shot, DJ XTC and Youngstar tunes, you're mistaken. If you think Boddika didn't hear Underground Resistance and think he should make that, you're mistaken.
Yeah, people call them on it occasionally, but drop some vinyl crackle or a pitched rnb vocal in your tune, and you get bare bods on here saying you're a rip-off.
If people only want entirely original artists in their collection, well, it's gonna be a very small collection.
the 130 stuff has a huge amount of variation, i wouldn't say any one producers sounds like another. They do pull huge influences of course but its not at the same level as burialers.
Taking inspiration is one thing, Sangam does from burial but does his own thing.
A good producer re-creating somones tunes with slight variations just seems like a waste of time & effort. That's the stuff you do first year producing.
My main point was that people tend to overlook when a whole group of people utterly rip off 1 or 2 producers, but the vaguest resemblance to Burial will have people all over it.
