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Ableton and Massive Grrrr

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:02 pm
by mistayif
i'm trying to automate massive lfo rates in ableton and the clever people at native instruments are fully aware that you can't automate the synced rates and plan to do nothing about it, it looks like i have to draw out manual rates of lfo automation.

could anyone please tell me how to work out the decimal values of the synced lfo values? for example, when the sync lfo rate is at 1/2, you would draw in the automation at 0.5 can anyone tell me how to work out the values when sync is at 1/4, 1/8 and so on?

cheers 8)

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:23 pm
by abZ
Alpacas anyone?

I knew what the question was before I opened the thread. This is getting very tiresome now. Why the hell do you want to automate the LFO's in Massive anyway? That is getting so fucking boring imo.

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:51 pm
by hurlingdervish
abZ wrote:Alpacas anyone?

I knew what the question was before I opened the thread. This is getting very tiresome now. Why the hell do you want to automate the LFO's in Massive anyway? That is getting so fucking boring imo.
i was done with wobble after a day at dsf haha


cant we have a sticky with font size 64 that says "THIS IS HOW YOU WOBBLE"

its like anything at the top they disregard as nothing haha

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:54 pm
by contakt321
Pretty sure the newest version allows it but I havent updated yet. Check the NI forums though.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:21 am
by mistayif
@ hurlingdervish. if you actually read my post, you'll find that i wasn't asking how to wobble but how to work out the decimal values of synced lfo rates

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:51 am
by deadly_habit
contakt321 wrote:Pretty sure the newest version allows it but I havent updated yet. Check the NI forums though.
yes yes it does
buy it OP or upgrade if you have legit

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:03 am
by deadly_habit
baz1manor wrote:this might help, http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php
heh i really should share all my audio bookmarks on here sometime

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:14 am
by mistayif
[/quote]
yes yes it does
buy it OP or upgrade if you have legit[/quote]

i have upgraded to the newest version (1.1.4) but i still cannot see a way how i can automate the synced lfo rate, i can only automate lfo rate when i adjust the rate manually by rotating the knob

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:16 am
by deadly_habit
weird ableton 7 or 8, doesnt really matter since neither are on my comp atm and same with massive
tried hitting up ableton forums yet?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:34 am
by chewie
This works on live 8 and massive 1.1.4 just move the lower box in the lfo tab and a pink line shows up - piece of piss.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:43 am
by mistayif
looks like i'm gonna have a little go on ableton 8 and see if its worth the upgrade.

in live 7, i can automate the sync lfo by tweaking an assigned knob on my controller, the only problem is that the tweaked parameter 'modulator5den' does not appear in the 128 parameters in ableton and so you can't edit it after the automation is recorded. also, if you unnassign the knob from 'modulator5den', the recorded automation automatically disappears

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:55 am
by deadly_habit
mistayif wrote:looks like i'm gonna have a little go on ableton 8 and see if its worth the upgrade.

in live 7, i can automate the sync lfo by tweaking an assigned knob on my controller, the only problem is that the tweaked parameter 'modulator5den' does not appear in the 128 parameters in ableton and so you can't edit it after the automation is recorded. also, if you unnassign the knob from 'modulator5den', the recorded automation automatically disappears
don't upgrade 8 is buggy as shit still

I won't be a tosser

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:34 am
by floss_nelson
Here you are mate. I see you got some tosser-rific answers so far, here is what I found about it hope this helps. It's basically in LFO 5, using digits 4, 8, 16 etc. in the lower box 1 in the top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZYDmw2pYOk

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2m_1i9eCbY

I'm a noob too though so maybe I'm a big toss a well. peace

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:39 am
by jsilver
you have to upgrade to massive 1.1.4

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:14 pm
by mistayif
done and dusted.

@deadly habit, you should try ableton 8 again but get the newest one which is 8.0.4, no bugs at all and the ability to automate almost every knob and button works like a dream