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what frequencies seem to do justice in modest sized dubstep venues
as well as what sub bass notes impact various sized clubs the best.

I am hoping people will post about tunes they made and played out...
the notes that hit the hardest and where n such

mmm, probably whatever bass hits in the 50-65hz range, some deep sub goes lower but yah often doesn't show up. Keys of like F and G seem to work well. E too. I used to always write in C out of laziness but the bass isn't always there. Plus I find shit club systems hype the bass so they compensate for you, so you have to be careful not to go overkill. My opinions and I've played a lot of my shit out on a variety of rigs.

i usually use F + G (originally cuase they sound the biggest in my tiny untreated room)
sometimes E as well

but i wanted to become more conscious of what people would hear at various venues

theres a theory about the G... that thats the best bass key strongest etc. had something to do with the hz you can half it more then at C

R wrote:theres a theory about the G... that thats the best bass key strongest etc. had something to do with the hz you can half it more then at C

ill check up on that.... G is without a doubt the biggest for bass on my setup/room

+1 for a low G-- always nice and full, regardless of room or rig.

low E you can really get air moving with.

i've got a tune now that holds out on a low C-- it doesn't exist on small systems but on a big rig, my lord; some psycho-acoustic shit. it's so low that you can just feel the peaks of the soundwave, but you don't really 'hear' anything. probably around 35hz. sub-subbass.

TeReKeTe wrote: i've got a tune now that holds out on a low C-- it doesn't exist on small systems but on a big rig, my lord; some psycho-acoustic shit. it's so low that you can just feel the peaks of the soundwave, but you don't really 'hear' anything. probably around 35hz. sub-subbass.

wow do you have a place you test that out in bklyn?
i would love to be able to test shit out and experiment tunes on big rigs

Decree wrote:i usually use F + G (originally cuase they sound the biggest in my tiny untreated room)
sometimes E as well

but i wanted to become more conscious of what people would hear at various venues

Man it's all relative. Whatever you hear most is probably what peeps will hear most in a club to various degrees. I no longer live off a frequency analyzer but it helps to make sure you don't have too many lows you aren't hearing but yah, just make it sound good and reference it with other tunes that are pro or whatev and you'll be fine.

Jedison wrote:

Decree wrote:i usually use F + G (originally cuase they sound the biggest in my tiny untreated room)
sometimes E as well

but i wanted to become more conscious of what people would hear at various venues

Man it's all relative. Whatever you hear most is probably what peeps will hear most in a club to various degrees. I no longer live off a frequency analyzer but it helps to make sure you don't have too many lows you aren't hearing but yah, just make it sound good and reference it with other tunes that are pro or whatev and you'll be fine.

werrdd i mean where i was generally coming from with this thread was that I am almost 100% that what I hear in my room will vary drastically at a club

but ya i def hear u

found it again. People say 440hz isnt our natural hz.... 432 is.. and that's a G if im right. (correct me if im wrong)

Why is it better they say ? Well you can half it way better

demonstratoin :

C - 440/2 = 220 220/2=110 110/2=55 55/2= 27,5hz
G - 432/2 = 216 216/2=108 108/2=54 54/2= 27hz

27hz is our lowest range we could hear/feel.


just a theory i heard.

Decree wrote:

TeReKeTe wrote: i've got a tune now that holds out on a low C-- it doesn't exist on small systems but on a big rig, my lord; some psycho-acoustic shit. it's so low that you can just feel the peaks of the soundwave, but you don't really 'hear' anything. probably around 35hz. sub-subbass.

wow do you have a place you test that out in bklyn?
i would love to be able to test shit out and experiment tunes on big rigs

sadly not; only tried it out on the road!

there are definitely some good sounding rooms in BK these days tho. I'm continually impressed by the improvements made to public assembly (the old galapagos) in williamsburg; the bell house in gowanus sounds great... even southpaw has some mojo.

R wrote:found it again. People say 440hz isnt our natural hz.... 432 is.. and that's a G if im right. (correct me if im wrong)

Why is it better they say ? Well you can half it way better

demonstratoin :

C - 440/2 = 220 220/2=110 110/2=55 55/2= 27,5hz
G - 432/2 = 216 216/2=108 108/2=54 54/2= 27hz

27hz is our lowest range we could hear/feel.


just a theory i heard.

huh i thought all people can hear slightly different ranges.....

but those freqs don't match up with those notes tho according to this :
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

TeReKeTe wrote:

Decree wrote:

TeReKeTe wrote: i've got a tune now that holds out on a low C-- it doesn't exist on small systems but on a big rig, my lord; some psycho-acoustic shit. it's so low that you can just feel the peaks of the soundwave, but you don't really 'hear' anything. probably around 35hz. sub-subbass.

wow do you have a place you test that out in bklyn?
i would love to be able to test shit out and experiment tunes on big rigs

sadly not; only tried it out on the road!

there are definitely some good sounding rooms in BK these days tho. I'm continually impressed by the improvements made to public assembly (the old galapagos) in williamsburg; the bell house in gowanus sounds great... even southpaw has some mojo.

its sad... i do not personnally know anyone in nyc that produces dubstep
there should be dubstep get togethers to test tunes (daytime) @ places haahahah

Decree wrote:

R wrote:found it again. People say 440hz isnt our natural hz.... 432 is.. and that's a G if im right. (correct me if im wrong)

Why is it better they say ? Well you can half it way better

demonstratoin :

C - 440/2 = 220 220/2=110 110/2=55 55/2= 27,5hz
G - 432/2 = 216 216/2=108 108/2=54 54/2= 27hz

27hz is our lowest range we could hear/feel.


just a theory i heard.

huh i thought all people can hear slightly different ranges.....

but those freqs don't match up with those notes tho according to this :
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

oh yeah woops 440 is A hahaha

im not sure it was about G that much with the nature frequenties. Tho i just heard about it. i felt telling it. just share the knowledge and do something you like

R wrote: oh yeah woops 440 is A hahaha

im not sure it was about G that much with the nature frequenties. Tho i just heard about it. i felt telling it. just share the knowledge and do something you like

it still gave me some ideas n such
and was an interesting theory

F and G are pretty common ones but you can use any key creatively your lowest note doesn't have to be the root note. for instance, some say the key of C is weak but the 5th of C is F and the 7th is G so you can use F and G which sound beefy but starting out with C. Use different keys fellas! Using the same notes every tune can make a Jack a dull boy.

If the bass is loud enough and placed well enough in the mix, it'll make your chest rattle regardless of whether you can hear it or not.

At TeReKeTe:

Currently writing a tune on which the subs bottom out at low c too, which is around 35hz. If planning on playing this out (which I am at some point) will this be heard at all on a sweet-ish club system? Or will I need to change the bass?