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				Dubstep Essay
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:14 am
				by clue
				For university I have to write an essay in relation to a paper written about various things to do with music (I won't go into detail here it isn't necessary). Basically I'm planning on including some of the positive/negative aspects of dubstep, with a focus on the heavy/wobble side of things and how ketamine and other general behaviour in relation to the scene has had an effect whether it be good or bad. Any suggestions or links to things I could include? 
Cheers.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:16 am
				by wibblewobble
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				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:32 am
				by clue
				Why? Do people not want to acknowledge the fact that in dubstep, like every genre, there are both positive and negative occurrences? I'm just looking for any input so I can construct a balanced discussion on the scene, I don't see the problem in that.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:38 am
				by deamonds
				clue wrote:Why? Do people not want to acknowledge the fact that in dubstep, like every genre, there are both positive and negative occurrences? I'm just looking for any input so I can construct a balanced discussion on the scene, I don't see the problem in that.
mate there is enough fucking shit on here for you to write a book about the negative effects of 'x'
ffs, there is like a 16 page thread on ketamine & d
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:15 am
				by clue
				Seems everyone is quick to cry. I didn't just say negative. Thanks...I guess.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:22 am
				by fretn
				- ear damage (bass eats earcells)
- drug use (frequently, but not alone in the dubstep scene)
+ innovative sound
+ it's on the rise worldwide
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:45 am
				by isiahfire
				+ Keeps the kids off smack
- Doorly
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:51 am
				by Littlefoot
				not about the music genre essays
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:02 pm
				by clue
				Thank you very much fretn and Isiahfire I will put your suggestions to good use. 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:08 pm
				by hpuk
				deamonds wrote:clue wrote:Why? Do people not want to acknowledge the fact that in dubstep, like every genre, there are both positive and negative occurrences? I'm just looking for any input so I can construct a balanced discussion on the scene, I don't see the problem in that.
mate there is enough fucking shit on here for you to write a book about the negative effects of 'x'
ffs, there is like a 16 page thread on ketamine & d
 
bloody hell man, no need to have a go ...
Just because you've seen it every time you've come on DSF it doesn't mean other people have.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:09 pm
				by clue
				Yes thank you, you definitely raise a valid point there and I'll include it. I must say it is interesting that Ketamine seems to be the drug of choice for many and one that is associated with dubstep - I wonder what the origins of this were and how the connection was gained.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:14 pm
				by deamonds
				hpuk wrote:deamonds wrote:clue wrote:Why? Do people not want to acknowledge the fact that in dubstep, like every genre, there are both positive and negative occurrences? I'm just looking for any input so I can construct a balanced discussion on the scene, I don't see the problem in that.
mate there is enough fucking shit on here for you to write a book about the negative effects of 'x'
ffs, there is like a 16 page thread on ketamine & d
 
bloody hell man, no need to have a go ...
Just because you've seen it every time you've come on DSF it doesn't mean other people have.
 
you are right, apology's.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:33 pm
				by Pistonsbeneath
				it gets gheyer as more people consume it and follow the worst trends..much like what happened to d&b....
also an elite has been established with a network of mates controlling the scene in it's entirety...if you weren't in you won't get in basically...this happened with d&b as well...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:41 pm
				by isiahfire
				Piston wrote:it gets gheyer as more people consume it and follow the worst trends..much like what happened to d&b....
also an elite has been established with a network of mates controlling the scene in it's entirety...if you weren't in you won't get in basically...this happened with d&b as well...
Cant agree with either of these points mate, i reckon the genre is progressing all the time, and just because some of the worst trends, poor production, same old formulas etc, are getting rinsed by some people, it just means that producers who truly love the music are pushed to make music thats coming from a different angle. Look at everything thats happening with the autonomic stuff, and then people like untold, brackles etc, blurring the lines between funky and dubstep.  
And, who do you mean by this network of mates?  
Thank you very much fretn and Isiahfire I will put your suggestions to good use. Smile
No probs man, good luck with the essay.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:00 pm
				by shamwow
				Worst place to talk about this sort of shit is in an internet forum full of chin strokers.