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Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:27 pm
by tom425
HI

I want to make dubstep. So basicly i need to know how to start, so please answer these questions

1. What program should i be using to start learning?
2. Were can i download beats and stuff?
3. Do i need any exturnal equipment? (midi controller,keyboard stuff like that)
4. are there any good beginer tutorials around?

im starting very much from scratch so anything that will help i would love :D :D

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:51 pm
by last & least
tom425 wrote:HI

I want to make dubstep. So basicly i need to know how to start, so please answer these questions

1. What program should i be using to start learning?
2. Were can i download beats and stuff?
3. Do i need any exturnal equipment? (midi controller,keyboard stuff like that)
4. are there any good beginer tutorials around?

im starting very much from scratch so anything that will help i would love :D :D

from one n00b to another n00b, people are gonna tell you to google...
i don't know shit btw but here i go:

snares on the 3rd beat and kick spread twice as as far out... i'm shit at explaining.

if you search the forum for samples there are loads!
as for programmes i use renoise, first DAW i ever used, and you don't need external hardware, neither does ableton... Reason does though but you can get bomes midi keyboard with midi yoke to get round that.

Software is fairly important so i would just go download all the demos. Happy dubsteppINg. is that right?

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:57 pm
by corpu5
1. Reason/fl studio is easiest
2. Search dubstep samples in google or search 'sample' on this forum
3. no, midi keyboard/controller would be nice but you can make music without them
4. youtube is your friend blud. If you're gonna get reason look on youtube for video's by boyinaband he does a 7day dubstep tutorial or if youre gonna get fruity loops studio, look for a guy called 'speedy' who's channel is 'capitalsmusic' or somthing like that, he does tutorials on drums/melodies and wobbles

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:19 pm
by DOOMTROOPER/T40
Also check the Dubstep Production Bible http://www.dubstepforum.com/the-dubstep ... 14797.html at the top of teh production thread. This is what it's there for. got loads of helpful info on everything :D

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:25 pm
by Malicious
tom425 wrote:HI

I want to make dubstep. So basicly i need to know how to start, so please answer these questions

1. What program should i be using to start learning?
2. Were can i download beats and stuff?
3. Do i need any exturnal equipment? (midi controller,keyboard stuff like that)
4. are there any good beginer tutorials around?

im starting very much from scratch so anything that will help i would love :D :D

1. Arguable, although, I'd say Reason
2. Google ;)
3. Don't need a keyboard to begin with... but when you get better (and you've become serious about producing), then grab one.
4. Loads of tutorials on youtube for reason/fl

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:39 pm
by tom425
Cheers guys im downloading reason :D thanks for the help

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:49 pm
by nitz
tom425 wrote:Cheers guys im downloading reason :D thanks for the help
emm do you mean buying reason 4?

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:20 pm
by corpu5
tom425 wrote:Cheers guys im downloading reason :D thanks for the help
oh dear.

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:24 pm
by 86.
hey, what if it was a legal download?

Re: Starting

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:35 pm
by tom425
hehe its the demo witch means save/export is disabled. thought id try it out befor i diside to buy anything :P :lol:

*just checked how much reason costs :P prehaps a little to much for a beginner

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:12 am
by silkpantsman
As a total newbi to production (very much a skilled dj and by no means a retard at music) and because ive done nothing but ask questions since i joined the forum, ill try impart some advice. There is a huge amount of learning to be done when you start production so my advice is not to do a whole pile of spending until your learning begins to plateu with the tools you ve got (IMO). I bought ableton 7 LE, a novation sound card, and 2 midi controllers.I didnt bother spending my money on making myself sound amazing ie. Reason plug ins etc because there is so much more ground work to be done in your DAW as a newbi to production that you wont need that for a good while and you really can create a hell of alot with only ableton 7 LE (or similar basic DAW package) any1 who tells you any different is covering up their own lack of creativity and ability with a bigger price tag (if you get what i mean). The most important thing when i comes to production (IMO) is to train your ear really imerse yourself in the dubstep sound like to the point of obsession :u: almost. So that you can naturally let rip when you figure out how to use your DAW with the sound that comes naturally to you. On the sample front again go cheap, get free samples in a whole host of production magazines and say hello to some excellent tutorials at the same time. The forum is also an amazing world of knowledge packed with tips tricks tutorials and samples...just work your way through it. Again dont get to caught up in the whole expensive or even 'costs money' sample pack world. 1 you should be pushing yourself so that you are creating every piece of sound in your songs not using other peeps loops and 2 its other people telling you what it is dupstep sounds like and thats just not productive at all for you as an artist. I made a bangin tune the other day from the samples given in future music for a Sander Van Doorin trance style song. Hope it goes well for you what ever route you take...enjoy the late nites :e:

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:29 am
by collige
tom425 wrote:hehe its the demo witch means save/export is disabled. thought id try it out befor i diside to buy anything :P :lol:

*just checked how much reason costs :P prehaps a little to much for a beginner
It's worth it. There's no point in using sub-par software.

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:14 am
by hurlingdervish
why would reason be good for a beginner? i would think reason is much better for people who already know whats going on in production...

i would say FL studio for beginners. hell it even gives you dubstep tempo to boot!

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:45 am
by ninjadog
No one but you can say which software is best for you. Just demo stuff till you find one that seems right for you.
If you have ever used hardware to make music Reason might seem familiar. Also check out Ableton Live, good for producers and DJ's alike. And Reaper. Reaper only costs $60.
Also figure out if you will use VST's (or AU's if your on a mac and are going to get logic), Reason doesent support them at all. VST's and the like are basicly virtual insturments and effects made by third party companys. Some are good some are not, some are free some cost over a grand...

You dont need a midi controller, but you will probably get sick of clicking and dragging everything with your mouse.

There is tons of info for beginners in the stickies on the top of this forum, tons of shit on you tube as well.

You can get tunes everywhere, start with dubstep.fm

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:50 am
by ninjadog
hurlingdervish wrote:why would reason be good for a beginner? i would think reason is much better for people who already know whats going on in production...

i would say FL studio for beginners. hell it even gives you dubstep tempo to boot!
Why wouldent Reason be good for a beginner? Thats what I started on...I tried using FL, Cubase and Live afterward but I dident like working with them, it's all personal preference IMO.

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:26 pm
by Hurtdeer
hurlingdervish wrote:why would reason be good for a beginner? i would think reason is much better for people who already know whats going on in production...

i would say FL studio for beginners. hell it even gives you dubstep tempo to boot!

FL allows for more bit more versatility than Reason, the audio engine's a bit nicer too...


Why worry about what's good for beginner though? You wouldn't play bass just to prepare for playing guitar because it has less strings. Try out all sorts of demos and figure out which program works with your workflow best and go with that

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:58 pm
by silkpantsman
collige wrote:
tom425 wrote:hehe its the demo witch means save/export is disabled. thought id try it out befor i diside to buy anything :P :lol:

*just checked how much reason costs :P prehaps a little to much for a beginner
It's worth it. There's no point in using sub-par software.

What do you mean sub par software...what do you think electronic artists did in the 90's...its not sub par software and for a beginner with so much to learn there is absolutly no need to spend that kind of money.

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:02 pm
by Hurtdeer
in fact, if it's about money, just look up that great futures_untold thread with all the free music-making equipment, using reaper and all that

or use renoise if you're willing to properly sit down and understand it, the demo only doesn't let you save .wavs, and the full version is cheap anyway

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:53 pm
by tom425
well ive downloaded a few trial but now i need some single drum hit to start messing around with. does anyone have any good ones for dubstep?

Re: Starting

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:12 pm
by Neurotik
1. What program should i be using to start learning?
Arguable is the right term i think. IMO you need to go and look at some different programs and download some demos. Find out what you work best with. If i had to recommend one it'd be FL Studio, easy to pick up on and once you start learning how to use it in depth it's one of the best DAWs out there.
2. Were can i download beats and stuff?
There's a samples and patches thread in the production forum somewhere if it hasn't been stickied alreads, well worth a look.
3. Do i need any exturnal equipment? (midi controller,keyboard stuff like that)
A MIDI controller i'd recommend but i wouldn't say it's mandatory to go all out on hardware synths etc. with all the incredible VST/VSTi's available (going back to Q1, as Reason is a pretty good program, if you do go with Reason there'll be no VST compatability unfortunately).
4. are there any good beginer tutorials around?
Again, there are some pretty great tutorials around the production forum that are well worth checking out. There was a good one not so long ago for a 7 day dubstep tutorial on Reason, well showing you some techniques that can be applied to any program, and there are also other forums and tutorial sites across the web that are great.

Hope this helps and all the best with the production! :D