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Music School
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:32 am
by Lwrabbit420
nvm I think I found one that looks affordable. Thanks anyways.
Re: Music School
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:38 am
by tavravlavish
the fact is the teacher doesnt need to know shit about the genre to seriously help your production skills.. but i wouldnt recommend dropping hella bones on a class unless your trying to do work or some shit. im taking classes right now about reason 4 but only because my highschool is paying for it.
Re: Music School
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:43 am
by nitz
I think you may want to re write the sentence to
" is there any good music schools out there to help me in music production"
i have never head of a uni (well in uk) where they teach you just one thing or one genre of music, i think what you want to do is go study a music production course if thats want you really want to do, and then from the skills you gained from studying with them use them in you choice of music (dubstep for you.) and depends what level you want to study at? you said mexico, school there might mean college in uk ? i dont know because i dont live there.
Re: Music School
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:42 pm
by Mad_EP
If you want to go to music school so that you can maek t3h ph@t wobblez....
Don't bother. There aren't any, and even if there were, it would be a waste of your money.
If you want to go to a good sound engineering school- so that you know how to properly record and produce music, so that you get a lot of studio hours with amazing hardware you could never afford in your lifetime, so that you can learn directly from people who have been in the business for decades, so that you can learn from your peers who are just as curious and creative as you.. who want to put their ideas into some sort of reality...... then by all means, I recommend it whole-heartedly.
I went through a top-notch recording program and in my digital audio class (where we focused on DAWs, soft synths, VSTs, etc)... the class was comprised of someone who did shoegaze rock, someone who did minimal techno, a drum n bass head, a hiphop head, 3 people who never composed before, and myself (who at the time was doing mutant versions of anything under the sun)... and it was brilliant. I learned just as much from the shoegaze person as I did from the drum n bass person... and we all learned under the same umbrella. (ella - ella - ella...)
If it had been a class focusing on one genre (rather than how to use & maximize the tools regardless of genre), it would have been useless.
Master your tools first, then worry about your style.
Re: Music School
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:51 pm
by Grubby Gnome
^^^^^^^^^
soooo true.
although all umbrella references should be punishable by hanging
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:14 am
by slyman
mad ep where did u go?
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:10 am
by Mad_EP
Grubby Gnome wrote:^^^^^^^^^
soooo true.
although all umbrella references should be punishable by hanging
Haha- I know. I was being hipster-ironic, or something. Although, now that I think of it, being hipster-ironic should be punishable by hanging as well.
slyman wrote:mad ep where did u go?
I went to McGill in Montreal - toughest year of my life but I learned more than I thought was possible.
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:40 am
by jsilver
teach yourself. word up. much more fulfilling. electronic music should be decided by your style aesthetic and no one else
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:57 pm
by nitz
Mad EP wrote:Grubby Gnome wrote:^^^^^^^^^
soooo true.
although all umbrella references should be punishable by hanging
Haha- I know. I was being hipster-ironic, or something. Although, now that I think of it, being hipster-ironic should be punishable by hanging as well.
slyman wrote:mad ep where did u go?
I went to McGill in Montreal - toughest year of my life but I learned more than I thought was possible.
One year

what course was that ? normally people do sandwich courses in where you study for a year then go out into the work place then come back for the last year..
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:17 pm
by Mad_EP
It was a pre-requisite year of courses required in order to be eligible for the Masters Program. It was intense load of classes: Sound Recording, Electronics & Electroacoustics, Physics & Psychophysics, Acoustics and Psychoacoustics, Digital Media Production, Computer/MIDI, Digital Audio (the actual math & theory behind it, like error detection & correction, etc), and more.
With all the classes, homework, late-night recording sessions (usually from 12am-5am), lab projects, etc... I think I averaged sleeping only every other night at most.
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:30 pm
by nitz
Mad EP wrote:It was a pre-requisite year of courses required in order to be eligible for the Masters Program. It was intense load of classes: Sound Recording, Electronics & Electroacoustics, Physics & Psychophysics, Acoustics and Psychoacoustics, Digital Media Production, Computer/MIDI, Digital Audio (the actual math & theory behind it, like error detection & correction, etc), and more.
With all the classes, homework, late-night recording sessions (usually from 12am-5am), lab projects, etc... I think I averaged sleeping only every other night at most.
dam that cousre sounds tasteful, hmm sound very hard but really good at the same time, so you did a vary of this in the course hmm nice. What your overall thoughts on it ? how was it ? and after doing there course where are you now atm, what do you do, do you every apply any of that knowledge nowadays?
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:59 pm
by Mad_EP
nitz wrote:Mad EP wrote:It was a pre-requisite year of courses required in order to be eligible for the Masters Program. It was intense load of classes: Sound Recording, Electronics & Electroacoustics, Physics & Psychophysics, Acoustics and Psychoacoustics, Digital Media Production, Computer/MIDI, Digital Audio (the actual math & theory behind it, like error detection & correction, etc), and more.
With all the classes, homework, late-night recording sessions (usually from 12am-5am), lab projects, etc... I think I averaged sleeping only every other night at most.
dam that cousre sounds tasteful, hmm sound very hard but really good at the same time, so you did a vary of this in the course hmm nice. What your overall thoughts on it ? how was it ? and after doing there course where are you now atm, what do you do, do you every apply any of that knowledge nowadays?
I realized that I didn't want to do the full Master's Program - largely because I had a lot of ideas I wanted to follow up on that I didn't have time for if I were to be a competitive applicant. So I decided to take the year to learn as much as I could, using their gear & facilities and make the most of it. I probably ended up working even harder - spending a minimum of 40 hours a week in the digital audio studios in addition to my courses and recording sessions, etc.
My overall thoughts are very positive about it - but I admit it isn't for everyone. If I wanted a job as an engineer I would have definitely stayed in the program, as their placement is very high (my Electronics teacher now works as a Tonmeister for Bang & Olufsen, a classmate is now a producer & engineer for the CBC, etc)... I was there to add a technical background to my other skills (I was a producer of the Chicago Symphony radio broadcasts at the time, but had no engineering experience).
As far as how I have used what I learned... I guess it varies a bit. Almost every track I wrote while I was there has since been released on Ad Noiseam or Hymen (my debut 12" - When I'm 6 - was originally a homework assignment for my New Media Production class). In addition to that, I learned a lot of other digital media (such as Director, Photoshop, etc) that lead me to getting hired to go to China for a month to do some hi-res digital archiving of ancient Buddhist caves in the Gobi desert .. as well as other media work (mainly sound design).
I do think learning what I learned has given me really strong fundamentals when producing my own music, as well as an extended network of musicians, engineers and producers I tip for advice from time to time.
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:56 pm
by 86.
Mad EP wrote:nitz wrote:Mad EP wrote:It was a pre-requisite year of courses required in order to be eligible for the Masters Program. It was intense load of classes: Sound Recording, Electronics & Electroacoustics, Physics & Psychophysics, Acoustics and Psychoacoustics, Digital Media Production, Computer/MIDI, Digital Audio (the actual math & theory behind it, like error detection & correction, etc), and more.
With all the classes, homework, late-night recording sessions (usually from 12am-5am), lab projects, etc... I think I averaged sleeping only every other night at most.
dam that cousre sounds tasteful, hmm sound very hard but really good at the same time, so you did a vary of this in the course hmm nice. What your overall thoughts on it ? how was it ? and after doing there course where are you now atm, what do you do, do you every apply any of that knowledge nowadays?
I realized that I didn't want to do the full Master's Program - largely because I had a lot of ideas I wanted to follow up on that I didn't have time for if I were to be a competitive applicant. So I decided to take the year to learn as much as I could, using their gear & facilities and make the most of it. I probably ended up working even harder - spending a minimum of 40 hours a week in the digital audio studios in addition to my courses and recording sessions, etc.
My overall thoughts are very positive about it - but I admit it isn't for everyone. If I wanted a job as an engineer I would have definitely stayed in the program, as their placement is very high (my Electronics teacher now works as a Tonmeister for Bang & Olufsen, a classmate is now a producer & engineer for the CBC, etc)... I was there to add a technical background to my other skills (I was a producer of the Chicago Symphony radio broadcasts at the time, but had no engineering experience).
As far as how I have used what I learned... I guess it varies a bit. Almost every track I wrote while I was there has since been released on Ad Noiseam or Hymen (my debut 12" - When I'm 6 - was originally a homework assignment for my New Media Production class). In addition to that, I learned a lot of other digital media (such as Director, Photoshop, etc) that lead me to getting hired to go to China for a month to do some hi-res digital archiving of ancient Buddhist caves in the Gobi desert .. as well as other media work (mainly sound design).
I do think learning what I learned has given me really strong fundamentals when producing my own music, as well as an extended network of musicians, engineers and producers I tip for advice from time to time.
thanks for sharing!
Re: Music School
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:53 pm
by Sharmaji
Mad EP wrote: that lead me to getting hired to go to China for a month to do some hi-res digital archiving of ancient Buddhist caves in the Gobi desert

yeah, but, uh... have you done anything COOL with your music education?
bugger me, that sounds amazing. Proof-positive that focus and hard work can open some amazing doors in this world.
I love McGill's campus-- that arboretum is PERFECT for a little afternoon blaze
