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SO apparently, to get those wikkid dark farty bass sounds you gotta resample a lot and tweek the shit out of it. I been reading a ton on the grid, and while everyone seems to agree that resampling is the way to go, no one really says what the best way to go about it is. Sorry for being a noob but how? and whats? the best way to resample a bass sound.

What effects and in what order have you guys found the most successful. It's so frustrating hearing these sounds i want to create in other tracks and me sitting here at my workstation staring at a blank screen knowing what i want but not knowing how to create it.

I would be grateful if someone could post a basic step by step on how to resample and get these bass sounds. As i'm sure i'm not the only person who is interested. Cheers.

since you already read the grid i think it was loachm that posted the reese guide which explains it all that i've linked a load on here

i find the best way to resample is to get alot of midi parameters ready

get the initial bass sound ready

then record yourself just dicking around and slice up the result

and maybe do it again

i do it with drum sounds all the time to make new ones

peep the noisia q&a and i think cause4concern may have one or there is an old ass thread showing how to recreate one of their classic basslines. regardless loads of the twisty modulated bassline known artists have dropped loads of knowledge on the grid if you search and both of those 2 post every so often same with spor, teebee etc.

In terms of what order I put things in this would be a basic idea:

Compression/filters -> modulation (flanger/chorus etc) -> reverbs/delays

It's espeically important to put filters before reverbs/delays if you want to get those twisty, growly type dark stabs, becuase otherwise you will be filtering reverb tails and delays which doesn't sound right to my ears.

why dont u just try doing it? if u've read everything on the grid then u already know more than enuf, anything else u need to learn by doing it.

mico viejo wrote:why dont u just try doing it? if u've read everything on the grid then u already know more than enuf, anything else u need to learn by doing it.

Sounds like a dick thing to say but it really is true. All you need to know about resampling is the basic idea behind it and you realize there is no limit to it. Just do it and find your own techniques.

I do HAVE to resample bass. I don't know what it is but I can't stand raw synth sounds. Raw sounds just don't have enough character for me.

abZ wrote: Sounds like a dick thing to say

no it doesnt, its just u not used to the idea of actually agreeing with me... ; )

The best way to learn how to resample is just practising to be really honest. That way you won't be lisening to how everyone else does it and you got more chance of making some crazy original never heard before crazy bass sound! Or something...

abZ wrote:I don't know what it is but I can't stand raw synth sounds. Raw sounds just don't have enough character for me.

On my forays into the resampling technique, I found the sound became progressively duller, progressively more lifeless. Less character. How do you keep the sound's edge?

hurlingdervish wrote:
i do it with drum sounds all the time to make new ones

hey sorry dude what you mean by this? i am interested. play little patterns with drums mapped to keys on keyboard or some pads? or you mean resample your sequenced drums and cut up the result?

isn't resampleing a bit overrated? I mean, it's from the analogue time, you know, create a synth patch, record it to tape, create a different one, record it to tape etc...

if you have a pretty decent computer resampling isnt needed, I route my massive synth to three different chans, EQ every chan, process effects on them (per chan) etc, the only reason I see to resample is if my computer would be slow as fuck, or to have an empty effectchain after I used a gazillion effects... imo tbh

or am I missing something



edit....

oooh wait, so you can slice and cut up the result... aaah, now I see... yeah I do that alot...didnt know it was a technique...

resampling is a necessary evil to save cpu and to downsample renders which creates loads of interesting sounds when chopped and used right
most of the how can i sound like datsik koian sound etc would be self discovered if more people messed about rather than wanted instant answers.
it's a technique used in dnb by the most known names for ages and a good one.

deadly habit wrote: it's a technique used in dnb by the most known names for ages and a good one.

and breakcore, I am really stunned to see myself building basses out of scratch nowadays, I used to resample every piece of fucking sound I heard, vsti's? whats that? I haz fasttracker!

For me the best thing i found about resampling, is that i never know what sound im going to end up with!
For me thats the beauty. You always create original sounds (unless your doing a noisia reece).

The fun is in the making, and hearing it take shape
Go with your ears, and dont follow those grid tutorials by the letter, they are only guidelines

can someone link me to this.... grid site....

idlemode wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:
i do it with drum sounds all the time to make new ones

hey sorry dude what you mean by this? i am interested. play little patterns with drums mapped to keys on keyboard or some pads? or you mean resample your sequenced drums and cut up the result?

both

there are a million things you could do....one time tested one is to sample groupings of bits...so instead of one drum on one pad have a little sequence like kick hihat rim then on the next pad snare hi hat rim ..

also just recording the drums through random effects...see how much you can fuck up the sound and then "repair" it with more effects to something useful

basically as with anything just experiment and youll figure out cool shit to do

hurlingdervish wrote:

idlemode wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:
i do it with drum sounds all the time to make new ones

hey sorry dude what you mean by this? i am interested. play little patterns with drums mapped to keys on keyboard or some pads? or you mean resample your sequenced drums and cut up the result?

both

there are a million things you could do....one time tested one is to sample groupings of bits...so instead of one drum on one pad have a little sequence like kick hihat rim then on the next pad snare hi hat rim ..

also just recording the drums through random effects...see how much you can fuck up the sound and then "repair" it with more effects to something useful

basically as with anything just experiment and youll figure out cool shit to do

This is something I do for drums and bass (and everything else) when I'm preparing for a live PA. I like to have everything as audio rather than midi to keep things simplified and leaner for a live performance.

killingtime wrote:can someone link me to this.... grid site....

http://www.dogsonacid.com/

dark and dirty a lot of times is the combination of a modulated bandpass filter, saturation, and phaser/flanger with some portamento. the loachm tutorial is a good one to understand the steps to create growly bass. and like others have stated, messing around and experimentation will help. practice enough and you'll get to know your sampler, fx, slicing methods, etc..

On my forays into the resampling technique, I found the sound became progressively duller, progressively more lifeless. Less character. How do you keep the sound's edge?

i've found the trick is to apply each effect very minimally at first. you don't need to drown your mids or his in reverb or delay. try little bits here and there and apply more as needed. when using a bandpass, i'll often use eq and/or saturation to bring back freqs that are duller.