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Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:36 am
by Pistonsbeneath
i'd heard about this before but stumbled across this...

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=175

in my job i hear all the most commercial music non-stop and frequently think the lyrics seem rather odd and surely delivering more of a message than most people would think..

her new record has even more off lyrics that when you think about just don't make sense as a love song...

end of the day the back of a dollar bill should be enough for people to see how bizarre the world we live in and it's ruling classes are but maybe it isn't?

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so does anyone think this is crazy thinking regarding pop culture lyrics because it's really not...

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:39 am
by DZA
Yea theres ment to be a shit load in tu pacs track
think its a load of bullshit myself

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:42 am
by djelements
Mindfuck.

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:43 am
by firky
You can read anything into anything if you have the will.

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:44 am
by Pistonsbeneath
DZA wrote:Yea theres ment to be a shit load in tu pacs track
think its a load of bullshit myself
you write it off out of convenience or because you looked into it?

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:45 am
by elibomyekip
firky wrote:You can read anything into anything if you have the will.
This. The South Park episode on who took a shit in the urinal sums this up perfectly as Cartman adds together a bunch of numbers to come to a conclusion.

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:47 am
by Pistonsbeneath
firky wrote:You can read anything into anything if you have the will.
so your saying the music industry isn't filled with masonic influences then?

if those lyrics arent about a straight up love affair then they have to be about something...

it all seems very clear to me....you look behind stuff and you start to see some very weird stuff and a lot of the same symbols synonymous with the masonic...thats not reading into something it's simply the fact its there

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:49 am
by wormcode
FWIW read a while back in some interview that song was written for britney spears but her producers didn't want it so they sold it to the next highest bidder.

That site is entertaining but everything on the internet should come with a healthy serving of salt grains.

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http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:52 am
by Pistonsbeneath
blimey

okay guys so whys the dollar bill got all that shit on it?

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:53 am
by firky
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
firky wrote:You can read anything into anything if you have the will.

so your saying the music industry isn't filled with masonic influences then?
You bet. Of course there's going to be some influences from such organisations clandestine or otherwise, that's the way the world has always worked (not saying that is right).
if those lyrics arent about a straight up love affair then they have to be about something...

it all seems very clear to me....you look behind stuff and you start to see some very weird stuff and a lot of the same symbols synonymous with the masonic...thats not reading into something it's simply the fact its there
Iconography and hieroglyphics are palimpsest in their nature, that's not atypical of language because language evolves. But now and again someone will emphasise their earlier meaning over their present role and believe they have found something... now and again, they quite possibly have but... show me a long post on this forum and I bet, given enough time and research, I could so somethig like that picture you posted.

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:53 am
by wormcode
Parson should be here in a bit with some good links, lookin forward. :arrow:

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:54 am
by DZA
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
DZA wrote:Yea theres ment to be a shit load in tu pacs track
think its a load of bullshit myself
you write it off out of convenience or because you looked into it?

Looked into some of it, its when you play them backwards, and theres ment to be messages in them, they sound remotely like what people have said, same with little wayne but all the messages are mostly in song theyve sampled so i think its bullshit, people think theres a meaning there because there hearing something they want too hear
just what i think tho
im pissed that probably wont make any sense what so ever

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:55 am
by wormcode
DZA wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
DZA wrote:Yea theres ment to be a shit load in tu pacs track
think its a load of bullshit myself
you write it off out of convenience or because you looked into it?

Looked into some of it, its when you play them backwards, and theres ment to be messages in them, they sound remotely like what people have said, same with little wayne but all the messages are mostly in song theyve sampled so i think its bullshit, people think theres a meaning there because there hearing something they want too hear
just what i think tho
im pissed that probably wont make any sense what so ever
You mean backmasking? I think it's real, but most of it is the power of suggestion...especially on videos and other places where people put what they hear, and you read it as it's playing. And of course ones done dilberately like MSI has done in a couple of tunes.

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:57 am
by sigbowls

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:58 am
by Pistonsbeneath
firky wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
firky wrote:You can read anything into anything if you have the will.

so your saying the music industry isn't filled with masonic influences then?
You bet. Of course there's going to be some influences from such organisations clandestine or otherwise, that's the way the world has always worked (not saying that is right).
if those lyrics arent about a straight up love affair then they have to be about something...

it all seems very clear to me....you look behind stuff and you start to see some very weird stuff and a lot of the same symbols synonymous with the masonic...thats not reading into something it's simply the fact its there
Iconography and hieroglyphics are palimpsest in their nature, that's not atypical of language because language evolves. But now and again someone will emphasise their earlier meaning over their present role and believe they have found something... now and again, they quite possibly have but... show me a long post on this forum and I bet, given enough time and research, I could so somethig like that picture you posted.
sure but it's hardly everyday language to use all seeing eyes now is it?

or suns of enlightenment but they're everywhere if you are looking out for them

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:00 am
by firky
Pistonsbeneath wrote: sure but it's hardly everyday language to use all seeing eyes now is it?

or suns of enlightenment but they're everywhere if you are looking out for them
You are presuming it is the things you they are are actually all seeing eyes and what not.

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:03 am
by DZA
wormcode wrote:You mean backmasking? I think it's real, but most of it is the power of suggestion...especially on videos and other places where people put what they hear, and you read it as it's playing. And of course ones done dilberately like MSI has done in a couple of tunes.
Nope

People find an everyday object like the dollar bill find some major event in hostory and because they have something in common put them both together and make a big deal out of it

like the number the worlds axis is on is ment to be link with doomsday or some shit

if you beleive in that shit its on you, personly i think its a pile of shit, why worry about that shit

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:06 am
by Pistonsbeneath
DZA wrote:
wormcode wrote:You mean backmasking? I think it's real, but most of it is the power of suggestion...especially on videos and other places where people put what they hear, and you read it as it's playing. And of course ones done dilberately like MSI has done in a couple of tunes.
Nope

People find an everyday object like the dollar bill find some major event in hostory and because they have something in common put them both together and make a big deal out of it

like the number the worlds axis is on is ment to be link with doomsday or some shit

if you beleive in that shit its on you, personly i think its a pile of shit, why worry about that shit
the stuff on a dollar bill cannot be explained any other way and it is clearly significant...

even if some of the interpretations aren't on point it's still totally bizarre and if you can't explain it and don't want to know what it means it's ignorance

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:08 am
by firky
Piston.... don't go reading prison planet or anything, please. Dogmatic belief is baaaaaaad.

BTW google maps is proper shit

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9899/picture2vv.png

Re: Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:09 am
by wormcode
DZA wrote:
wormcode wrote:You mean backmasking? I think it's real, but most of it is the power of suggestion...especially on videos and other places where people put what they hear, and you read it as it's playing. And of course ones done dilberately like MSI has done in a couple of tunes.
Nope

People find an everyday object like the dollar bill find some major event in hostory and because they have something in common put them both together and make a big deal out of it

like the number the worlds axis is on is ment to be link with doomsday or some shit

if you beleive in that shit its on you, personly i think its a pile of shit, why worry about that shit
I mean real as in done intentionally, not necessarily like some lizard people plotting against us and using backmasked lyrics as a means of communication or something. -r-