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Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:52 pm
by stereotactic
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Just a quick question, I'm using Massive for my bass lines but I'll be the first to admit being a synth retard, despite my best efforts... Anyway, I know a lot of Dubstep artists also use Massive, but I can't quite figure out how they get their basses so nasty, yet clean. Bar 9 for example (and I am using this as an example, I don't want to be the next Bar 9 etc etc, that sound is his), the wobbles are incredibly aggressive yet clean as a whistle... I always seem to get a low dirtiness in mine. Hard to explain, it's almost like Bar 9's LFO -> filter cut off is very precise, and an absolute 100% cut, kind of an almost gated feel. Mine by contrast don't seem to have that snap, and although I am aware that this is mostly because I am a noob, I am wondering if I am missing something fundamental?

Any help would be appreciated, I really struggle getting anything decent out of Massive at the moment bar basic wobbles and gritty, shifting reece basslines and I want to improve but not sure the best place to start.

Any help gratefully appreciated!

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:01 pm
by ketamine
Sharp wobbles:
LFO to the Filter cutoff is ok, but also drag it to the Oscilators' "Amp" (amplitude) and cut to taste. You will see an immediate difference.

Clean Gritty Bass:
Use the modulation osc on the left. Specifically the phase buttons. For myself, a setting of -12 to to -24 always gets good results.

On insert one, use a bitcrusher, but only slightly. The rest is up to Wavetable selection. Use all 3 oscillators, and set one at 0. One at -12, and one at -24.

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:45 pm
by jameshk
You could always try a Square wave for the LFO insted of a Sine wave.

-hk

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:55 pm
by 2mb1o
Or you can use a bandpass instead of a lowpass

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:25 pm
by tripaddict
are you compressing ?

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:55 pm
by yamaz
For a pulsing bass, detune one osc between +3 to +25 and the other equally from -3 to -25. Sawtooth has more harmonics to filter.

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:42 pm
by nixon73

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:55 pm
by Brisance
Practise.

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:54 pm
by moki
Make sure your filter is steep, like 24 db or more (4 poles or more).

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:28 am
by nowaysj
also in massive you can blend the square and sine lfo, and send that to amp as said, much better.

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:33 am
by G31
sublte clever use of distortions
compression
make use of the modulation osc section especially with the phase over ur osc's in massive.

layer of synths sometimes

or summit like : bounce out a very low dirty 16 bars or summit of bass
then twist up the synth into somethin more midrange or hi end
and bounce that
then layer them and distort/filter/compress to taste
can get u some really interesting results

like makin complex reeces in dnb but with wibblez :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Basslines and Massive

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:25 am
by daft cunt
Last one is very nice, thanks for the link.

Plus the man produces some real fine dubstep imo.