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Can someone explain why if I have one noise, then I bring in another noise, it will sometimes make the original noise quieter?

Respect.

try taking the limiter off the master channel on the mixer

And then saving the limiterless mixer as your default.

this must be new in versions later than v4

Yeah last new versions i've tried they have a limiter on the master by default.

It could also just be frequencies clashing. Cut unneeded frequencies, that goes for any software.

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*edit* - it's happened to me SO many times...

yeah, remove the limiter on the master and then you'll see that your levels are probably way too loud. think they added it to the default template in 8 and a bad decision IMO. should be the first thing you remove and then set up your own templates and effects chains to make your workflow quicker. very useful if you're using controllers so your mappings are saved and your VSTs load on startup.

relik wrote: very useful if you're using controllers so your mappings are saved and your VSTs load on startup.

thats sick another reason why i should upgrade

you should be able to use templates in 4 too. i'm not sure about it saving mappings in older versions though cause i haven't used any controllers until recently. i setup templates and presets with my mappings as soon as i got my mpd because i didn't want to be linking that shit everytime and there's no presets for it in FL. even if you don't use a controller, i'd still setup a template with common VSTs in the step sequencer, route them to individual channels with effects, and setup your mastering chain. saves a lot of time.

when i save that as my default i reload and its still there

bengreen wrote:when i save that as my default i reload and its still there

make sure your saving it in the correct dir

I thought it was something to do with the limiter (the one that appears by default in the master channel), but I don't really know how the limiter works or explicitly what it does.

I've tried twiddling all the knobs on the limiter whilst stuff is playing, but I can't really hear much of a difference. (That's the way I've learnt everything i know in FL)

bengreen wrote:when i save that as my default i reload and its still there

I haven't done it in so long so I forget how to save the default. Just hit up the help file or SEARCH the forums. It's easy.

To the knob twiddler - keep at it, that's the way. Wouldn't hurt to read up on what limiters do, though.

Xavy wrote:I thought it was something to do with the limiter (the one that appears by default in the master channel), but I don't really know how the limiter works or explicitly what it does.

I've tried twiddling all the knobs on the limiter whilst stuff is playing, but I can't really hear much of a difference. (That's the way I've learnt everything i know in FL)

The idea of a limiter is to limit the volume basically if any sound comes through the limiter that is louder than whatever value you have set your ceiling to it will bring it down in volume till it is equal to the ceiling. The point of the one on your main bus is to stop any sounds going over 0db and causing distortion problems... If i remeber correctly the automatic one on FL runs with a gain of 1.50 so its automatically making your sound louder which isn't a great idea... If you set the gain back to 1 it can be useful to leave as it just ensures you're not gonna end up going over 0db but if your producing at decent volume levels that shouldn't be a concern.

Next time you start a file, go to: New from template -> Minimal -> Empty and then you won't have to deal with it

antics wrote:

Xavy wrote:I thought it was something to do with the limiter (the one that appears by default in the master channel), but I don't really know how the limiter works or explicitly what it does.

I've tried twiddling all the knobs on the limiter whilst stuff is playing, but I can't really hear much of a difference. (That's the way I've learnt everything i know in FL)

The idea of a limiter is to limit the volume basically if any sound comes through the limiter that is louder than whatever value you have set your ceiling to it will bring it down in volume till it is equal to the ceiling. The point of the one on your main bus is to stop any sounds going over 0db and causing distortion problems... If i remeber correctly the automatic one on FL runs with a gain of 1.50 so its automatically making your sound louder which isn't a great idea... If you set the gain back to 1 it can be useful to leave as it just ensures you're not gonna end up going over 0db but if your producing at decent volume levels that shouldn't be a concern.

Next time you start a file, go to: New from template -> Minimal -> Empty and then you won't have to deal with it

allow the limiter u dont need it

its better without trust me