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Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:11 pm
by Mutiny
Great tune this, but for some bizarre reason (my bad skills obviously) i cannot find anything that mixes well with it
i was wanting to play this out at the end of the month and after trying for quite a long time i cant seem to figure out anything!
so basically, does anyone know what bpm this track is?
thanks, and sorry for the n00b like thread
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:17 pm
by drokkr
You need to learn your records better and trust your hearing more
My ears told me it was 142 and a bit... Ableton says it's 141.92
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:22 pm
by Mutiny
drokkr wrote:You need to learn your records better and trust your hearing more
My ears told me it was 142 and a bit... Ableton says it's 141.92
nice one man, really appretiate it!
and yeah i know your right, im fine with most tunes, its just the snare on this track throws me off abit for some reason.. i'll keep practising haha.
Thanks again man
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:40 pm
by drokkr
Mutiny wrote:drokkr wrote:You need to learn your records better and trust your hearing more
My ears told me it was 142 and a bit... Ableton says it's 141.92
nice one man, really appretiate it!
and yeah i know your right, im fine with most tunes, its just the snare on this track throws me off abit for some reason.. i'll keep practising haha.
Thanks again man
No problem... It's the kick just before the clap/snare that is most probably catching you hearing. A great track too btw.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:30 pm
by Mutiny
drokkr wrote:A great track too btw.
Certainly is! The widdler makes some amazing songs, this is one of them for sure

Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:13 pm
by jargs
if i remember correctly it mixes brilliently with eastern jam.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:54 pm
by Mutiny
jargs wrote:if i remember correctly it mixes brilliently with eastern jam.
cheers

although eastern jam isnt my favourite tune.. been kinda rinsed out tbh haha
anyone else know of anythin it goes well with?
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:57 pm
by drokkr
Mutiny wrote: been kinda rinsed out
Understatement right there. That track is dead to me...
Benga - The Cut works well imo
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:02 pm
by Mutiny
yup, kinda like 'When i look at you'
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:33 pm
by yamaz
Great song, mixes well into caspa - where's my money.
Which was one of the first songs ever that I mixed having started out a few weeks ago. Ironically I heard someone on dubstep.fm do the exact same mix a couple days later
Strange the universe is.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:39 pm
by legend4ry
Mutiny wrote:drokkr wrote:A great track too btw.
Certainly is! The widdler makes some amazing songs, this is one of them for sure

You should hear his new stuff

Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:49 pm
by Mutiny
legend4ry wrote:Mutiny wrote:drokkr wrote:A great track too btw.
Certainly is! The widdler makes some amazing songs, this is one of them for sure

You should hear his new stuff

like whats on his new 2 hr mix? awesome stuff, i just bagged 'go ask alice' , 'nemisis' remix and 'i dont need you' on vinyl.. BIG!
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:52 pm
by legend4ry
Mutiny wrote:legend4ry wrote:Mutiny wrote:drokkr wrote:A great track too btw.
Certainly is! The widdler makes some amazing songs, this is one of them for sure

You should hear his new stuff

like whats on his new 2 hr mix? awesome stuff, i just bagged 'go ask alice' , 'nemisis' remix and 'i dont need you' on vinyl.. BIG!
Whatever he sent me 2 weeks ago

its biggggg stuff, unless you're all about wobbles then it'll make you throw up haha
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:16 am
by Mutiny
legend4ry wrote:Mutiny wrote:legend4ry wrote:Mutiny wrote:drokkr wrote:A great track too btw.
Certainly is! The widdler makes some amazing songs, this is one of them for sure

You should hear his new stuff

like whats on his new 2 hr mix? awesome stuff, i just bagged 'go ask alice' , 'nemisis' remix and 'i dont need you' on vinyl.. BIG!
Whatever he sent me 2 weeks ago

its biggggg stuff, unless you're all about wobbles then it'll make you throw up haha
im definatly NOT all about wobbles haha, music has the possibility of getting way way deeper than wobbles, although i guess everything has its place.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:43 pm
by serox
Mutiny wrote:Great tune this, but for some bizarre reason (my bad skills obviously) i cannot find anything that mixes well with it
i was wanting to play this out at the end of the month and after trying for quite a long time i cant seem to figure out anything!
so basically, does anyone know what bpm this track is?
thanks, and sorry for the n00b like thread
130/140 who cares its all the same.
I dont know the track but just and work out what kind of feel and vibe the tune has. Is it a banging floor filler with loads of wobble? or is it more chilled out? does it have a hard hitting snare etc etc
If you can try and find another record that is like it in some way.
Nearly any two records can be mixed together but if it sounds good or not is up to whos picking the records.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:49 pm
by Mutiny
serox wrote:Mutiny wrote:Great tune this, but for some bizarre reason (my bad skills obviously) i cannot find anything that mixes well with it
i was wanting to play this out at the end of the month and after trying for quite a long time i cant seem to figure out anything!
so basically, does anyone know what bpm this track is?
thanks, and sorry for the n00b like thread
130/140 who cares its all the same.
I dont know the track but just and work out what kind of feel and vibe the tune has. Is it a banging floor filler with loads of wobble? or is it more chilled out? does it have a hard hitting snare etc etc
If you can try and find another record that is like it in some way.
Nearly any two records can be mixed together but if it sounds good or not is up to whos picking the records.
Yeah it is nice to know what way to be adjusting the pitch control though
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:03 pm
by serox
Mutiny wrote:
Yeah it is nice to know what way to be adjusting the pitch control though
Try this.
Make sure the record is at the right speed, 33/45.
Find the first noise of the record.
Put the pitch to zero and keep ur hand on it. Throw the record in on that first noise at the right point in the record that is playing. Ie a drop.
Soon as you throw that record down you will be able to hear if it is too slow or fast. Use the pitch only and don’t touch the platter to match the tempos.
You will prob struggle and move the pitch in the wrong direction. At home you got loads of time tho so it doesn’t matter its only practice. The record may run out before you have matched it. Pull the needle and start again using the same tracks. Do this till you have matched the speed using the pitch only.
Get two more records, repeat process for months, job done. After a few months it will get easier. You will be able to do it faster and eventually be able to do it with any genre no matter what the intro is.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:08 pm
by Mutiny
serox wrote:Mutiny wrote:
Yeah it is nice to know what way to be adjusting the pitch control though
Try this.
Make sure the record is at the right speed, 33/45.
Find the first noise of the record.
Put the pitch to zero and keep ur hand on it. Throw the record in on that first noise at the right point in the record that is playing. Ie a drop.
Soon as you throw that record down you will be able to hear if it is too slow or fast. Use the pitch only and don’t touch the platter to match the tempos.
You will prob struggle and move the pitch in the wrong direction. At home you got loads of time tho so it doesn’t matter its only practice. The record may run out before you have matched it. Pull the needle and start again using the same tracks. Do this till you have matched the speed using the pitch only.
Get two more records, repeat process for months, job done. After a few months it will get easier. You will be able to do it faster and eventually be able to do it with any genre no matter what the intro is.
Cheers that is pretty helpful
Never tried that, i useally just try to mix 140bpm tracks or tracks that are very close to that bpm (138 etc)
then i'll bring in a 145 at a breakdown or whatever and then mix a few 145's, etc etc... its pretty lame,
thanks for this advice man, helpful stuff!
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:11 pm
by serox
Mutiny wrote:
Cheers that is pretty helpful
Never tried that, i useally just try to mix 140bpm tracks or tracks that are very close to that bpm (138 etc)
then i'll bring in a 145 at a breakdown or whatever and then mix a few 145's, etc etc... its pretty lame,
thanks for this advice man, helpful stuff!
That is good stuff for practicing but you will struggle if you move to other beat's and other tempos I think.
Do what I suggested and everything will become easier. It is tricky cos you will find it quite hard at first but you will get it eventually.
Re: Final Stage - The Widdler
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:14 pm
by wirez
Whatever happened to Widdler? He used to always comment on this forum