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Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:07 pm
by karmacazee
I love big reverberated kicks, bass stabs, and those delayed minimal lowpassed techy min7 chords.
Trouble is, whenever i try and put a bit of reverb on something like a kick or a bass stab, it never sounds right. Either you can't hear the reverb at all in the mix, or it muddies everything up, or it just sounds lame.
Any tips or settings for reverb for your low frequencies?
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:59 pm
by Original Face
You could try applying reverb to only the mid- and high-range parts of the kick or bass. Simplest way to do this would be (assuming you are using reverb as a 'send' effect) to put an eq before the reverb and roll off some bass.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:03 pm
by cloak and dagger
I was actually just thinking about this today. I never put reverb on low-end stuff normally, but was listening to a new track I did in the mp3 player,noticed how good the kick sounded, and realized it was because of the reverb I put on it. I also never sidechain stuff, but I did in this case as well, and that made it stand out a bit more as well...so I'd try that first.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:32 pm
by Depone
If you do put a reverb on a kick, make sure you hi-pass the kick's reverb at around 150hz. This will take out the muddiness but will still be able to hear the verb.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:24 pm
by setspeed
^^^ this, but i'd go further.
I'd say send your kick to a reverb buss, then after the reverb have a high pass at something like 250Hz (150 is kickdrum punch area, you certainly don't need that in a reverb tail) and then perhaps sidechain it off your drum buss to stop it getting cluttered

Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:27 pm
by karmacazee
Ok, cool, nice one guys, will give it a whirl.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:54 pm
by yamaz
How do you high pass a kicks reverb exactly? Do you put a filter in the sends or on the actual kick or do you split the kick into two sounds and then treat the one directly or using send/returns?
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:58 pm
by zion cluster
I say high pass before the reverb. Actually more like high pass -> saturate/distort (a little)-> Reverb
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:10 pm
by Depone
yamaz wrote:How do you high pass a kicks reverb exactly? Do you put a filter in the sends or on the actual kick or do you split the kick into two sounds and then treat the one directly or using send/returns?
Using sends to a reverb, then use an eq or filter to eq the bass out of the reverb
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:35 pm
by pets bud
I was just thinking the same thing. I listened to one of my old tracks where id put reverb on all my drums. And the kick sounds great exept it's muddy, so I stopped doing it. I will try that send and eq method. Thanks.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:53 pm
by yamaz
So you put the eq on the actual send/return bus?
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:00 pm
by yellowhighlighter
cool tips. everything sounds muddy when i put a bit of reverb on the low end.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:28 am
by wrexile
Like Original Face said, use an EQ before the Reverb on a send channel - this is also good for basslines.
You could also find a Reverb that has a Low-end cut on it, so it only applies the Reverb above that set frequency.
I don't know about anyone else, but sometimes I find it extremely tricky to get the reverberated bassline's stereo to sit in the mix nicely.. For some reason it just doesn't sound like it's in the "right place", if that makes sense.
Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:19 am
by Ithiriul
Oftentimes what I thought was a kick with reverb on it was just a super subby bassline with lots of harmonics on it. I heard this mostly in Hardstyle/hardtechno tracks but im sure it's prevalent in Dubstep also.
Set your bassline's cutoff to it's fundamental frequency (IE if your bass is playing E1, then its 41.20) and crank the resonance almost to full. Maybe throw an analog tape saturation plugin on it also. I find this can make a super subby bassline much more apparent without just cranking the volume.
I hope that makes sense~

Re: Reverb in the low end
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:04 pm
by zion cluster
This goes for delay on bass lines as well. Bass send -> HP -> Dubstation or the like, with short delay time, little bit of feedback.
Gives the bass lots of depth and pushes it back a little without using 'verb