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A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:30 pm
by psycho279
Hi I'm new to this forum and fairly new to dubstep, I've only been djing it for about 4 months now and I was wondering about vinyl. I use my comp a mixer and a sequencer and I was wondering what's the reason a lot of people still use vinyl? Is it harder to master? Is the sound quality better? I feel as though most people enjoy it because its sentimental or something? I really just don't understand and my friends ask me why I don't use vinyl and why other people do I really have no good answer. So if anyone could shed some light on this subject I would really appreciate it!
Thx
Brandon

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:57 pm
by psycho279
Am I just too noobish to even get an answer? My bad!

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:02 pm
by dj_donga
there's loads of arguments against vinyl - the expense, inconvenience or whatever but I just like it more
having a physical object in my hand rather than a download on my computer
it's not neccessarily logical - you could call it sentimental if you like
not everything in life has to make complete sense
dunno if i'm making any right now! :D

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:05 pm
by justjohn
Well before there were digital releases everything was released on Vinyl. Vinyl and the Turntable became synonymous with DJ's

Vinyl is still a huge part of DJ Culture.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:22 pm
by djrodan
yea and it souldnt be considered 'antique' in any way, vinyl industry is great right now and sound quality is very much preserved, some would argue better than strictly digital mixing in some senses, but thats a whole other thread in and of itself.

me personally, i enjoy buying a nice 12, [most] artists/professionals dont go out of their way and waste money to press 1000 copies of a garbage song, so [mostly,] only top notch songs by legitimate artists make it to vinyl. Also, as kids who didnt like touching the record on the record player while its spinning to hear what happens? lol

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:47 pm
by saphyre
Vinyl is the one

theres nothing like going out and buying a ton of sick records, you just feel like a badman

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:54 pm
by domhunt
saphyre wrote: theres nothing like going out and buying a ton of sick records, you just feel like a badman
Did this before New Year, strolled out of Eastern Bloc with all my new vinyl like YEAH BOI (H)

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:25 pm
by psycho279
djrodan wrote:yea and it souldnt be considered 'antique' in any way, vinyl industry is great right now and sound quality is very much preserved, some would argue better than strictly digital mixing in some senses, but thats a whole other thread in and of itself.

me personally, i enjoy buying a nice 12, [most] artists/professionals dont go out of their way and waste money to press 1000 copies of a garbage song, so [mostly,] only top notch songs by legitimate artists make it to vinyl. Also, as kids who didnt like touching the record on the record player while its spinning to hear what happens? lol
So do djs who spin vinyl from upon electronic mixing? Because I would like to use vinyls but I can't afford to add anythin to my current setup. Has anyone used both electronic and vinyl and would strongly suggest I add it to my setup?

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:47 pm
by dusk governor
use vinyl bruv, you'll get laid more often....

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:24 am
by ratling
psycho279 wrote:
djrodan wrote: Has anyone used both electronic and vinyl and would strongly suggest I add it to my setup?

use both that way you can play pretty much anything on any format. personally i prefer digital for promo material (as thats normally how it comes) & then vinyl once its got full release. i rarely buy digital unless i cant get it on vinyl.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:41 am
by jolly wailer
justjohn wrote: Vinyl is still a huge part of DJ Culture.
this is an understatement. its the foundation.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:01 am
by dopelabs
i have never used digital or cd's to dj before ... i dont have serato or cd decks.. i have been strictly a vinyl dj since the day i started djing... to me owning music means its tangible.. you can hold it in your hands... a bunch of 1's and 0's on a hard drive doesnt fulfill my idea of actually 'owning' a tune..

many people will argue over which sounds better.. granted you may be able to get some frequencies from a digital wav file that you wont get on vinyl, just because of the physical limitations of records, but i think vinyl has a much warmer and true sound. but in the end its personal preference in what you enjoy, and what your budget is. if your ok with sacrificing some sound quality to play mp3's rather than vinyl to save money, than more power to ya...

anyone should be able to easily tell the difference between digital files and a real record..in a club or in your home... as many djs these days only use a 320k mp3, the difference is day and night. a 320k mp3 sounds like garbage when compared to vinyl.

i also enjoy the fact that when the tune is over, i have to get up, and physically flip over or change the record and then theres the wonderful sound of the needle dropping before the tune starts...

and to consider all of the technological advances that we have made over the years with music formats, vinyl has continued to stay alive and is still the most preferred format in the dj industry.

but i also dont buy vinyl to just play out, if i have the chance to purchase a release on vinyl i will.. i collect rare and unusual vinyl as well. when you download an mp3 you also may not get a gorgeous record sleeve with some of the most amazing artwork you will ever see.. and its nice and big =]

as stated in an earlier post, more often than not tunes that make it to a vinyl release are generally quality tunes... most labels wont waste their time and money pressing some standard tune that was batch mastered with 10 other tunes using some pirated software plugins.

i used to tell people that as long as they keep pressing vinyl, i will keep buying it. and now that im a label owner and also releasing vinyl, i get to contribute to the ongoing survival of one of the oldest and most successful music formats ever. vinyl.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:36 am
by foolish
Vinyl is the plastic backbone of this, and many other underground sounds.
A plate is something you can feel. Mp3s are just part of a list.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:20 am
by upstateface
I enjoy when I buy vinyl and get a big physical piece of music. Don't get me wrong I love to support artists but I hate buying mp3's because frankly you don't get anything physical just a file on your hard drive.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:18 am
by laurent__duval
i've come from vinyl to serato. originally i used decks as i cant get my head round ableton etc and i got a load of dnb for cheap. then i got serato and have never looked back. i still love vinyl but i'm tending to buy the stuff that i'm not gonnas play out on vinyl for my own collection and pay to download tracks for serato.

but for me it just makes sense to do it on decks. looks cool as fuck too. noone likes watching a someone staring at their screen all night. but some of the things you can do with a digital set is really good!

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:11 pm
by ClankDubsss
psycho279 wrote:
djrodan wrote:yea and it souldnt be considered 'antique' in any way, vinyl industry is great right now and sound quality is very much preserved, some would argue better than strictly digital mixing in some senses, but thats a whole other thread in and of itself.

me personally, i enjoy buying a nice 12, [most] artists/professionals dont go out of their way and waste money to press 1000 copies of a garbage song, so [mostly,] only top notch songs by legitimate artists make it to vinyl. Also, as kids who didnt like touching the record on the record player while its spinning to hear what happens? lol
So do djs who spin vinyl from upon electronic mixing? Because I would like to use vinyls but I can't afford to add anythin to my current setup. Has anyone used both electronic and vinyl and would strongly suggest I add it to my setup?
i use two turntables and an ipod console, the only reason I have the ipod console is to play digital only releases and my own tracks, otherwise i would be 100% vinyl!

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:19 pm
by Pada
You wouldn't pay for a JPEG of a Andy Warhol.
:t:

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:44 pm
by 2ndBass
I used to use laptop and controller, but i've made the switch to vinyl now, played my first set with vinyl last night, I dont know why I didn't do it sooner, it's much more hands on and much more fun

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:45 pm
by domhunt
(Pada) wrote:You wouldn't pay for a JPEG of a Andy Warhol.
Hello new signature.

Re: A question about vinyl

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:49 pm
by dj_donga
lovin the support for vinyl
dont get it twisted
the advantages of digital for playing exclusive tracks etc is understood
but vinyl is the underdog these days so i think those still making the effort to press on wax really appreciate this
8)