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The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:16 pm
by DjTrainWreck
Hey guys,

Im working on a track right now.. but my drop isnt what i want it to be. What im saying is, the bass drops but not as fat as i wanted to. So My question for the day is; What are your tricks and tips to a fatty bass drop? -If you dont mind sharing. Im looking to make a drop that just blows the roof off if you know what i mean. Thanks in advance.

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:20 pm
by Depone
Step 1-
Build it up... (but dont use any kick rolls) Using synths that start low then get higher in pitch (easily modulated with an envelope).

Step 2-
Pause... Leave the listener hangin on his/her edge of their seats.

Step 3-
Drop that filth.

step 4-

£$£$£$£ Profit £$£$£$£

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:41 pm
by wrexile
Something I don't do enough is making sure that the sounds you're using, if they're going to be used as a constant, full part of the track, used at the beginning being a tiny bit quieter than they will be in the rest of the tune.
Say... the drums (I typed drugs there unconsciously lol), the atmospherics, the melodies etc.

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:53 pm
by jsills
to add to depone's point: hold back your sounds, esp your sub bass, untill the drop. let the track progress and build up and then pause....... then drop your bass. i think this is the single hardest thing in producing a good tune is the buildup and creating tension before the bass hits. i throw in the kitchen sink on the drop, the bass, a double time highhat line, dirty synth stabs, crashes etc

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:03 pm
by komanderkin
jsills wrote:i throw in the kitchen sink on the drop
what's a kitchen sink? besides the regular sink found in a kitchen of course. :mrgreen:

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:11 pm
by thrush
the drop is the shortened version of the bass drop i guess so drop the bass!

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:31 pm
by jsills
komanderkin wrote:
jsills wrote:i throw in the kitchen sink on the drop
what's a kitchen sink? besides the regular sink found in a kitchen of course. :mrgreen:
:lol: ill never tell, producer secret :twisted:

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:34 pm
by Depone
jsills wrote:to add to depone's point: hold back your sounds, esp your sub bass, untill the drop. let the track progress and build up and then pause....... then drop your bass. i think this is the single hardest thing in producing a good tune is the buildup and creating tension before the bass hits. i throw in the kitchen sink on the drop, the bass, a double time highhat line, dirty synth stabs, crashes etc
yeah i dont even add a hint of bass let alone sub bass before the main drop. :)

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:16 pm
by aesthetics
wrexile wrote:Something I don't do enough is making sure that the sounds you're using, if they're going to be used as a constant, full part of the track, used at the beginning being a tiny bit quieter than they will be in the rest of the tune.
Say... the drums (I typed drugs there unconsciously lol), the atmospherics, the melodies etc.
We need a "tip of the week" award...
This one is fucking awesome.
I'm opening a thread, with nominations and everything, poll at the end of the week (friday) with the 3-5 best ones.
Winner gets to brag about it in his sig :)

yeah, no?

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:24 pm
by komanderkin
jsills wrote:
komanderkin wrote:
jsills wrote:i throw in the kitchen sink on the drop
what's a kitchen sink? besides the regular sink found in a kitchen of course. :mrgreen:
:lol: ill never tell, producer secret :twisted:
:cry:

:s:

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:44 pm
by therapist
Depone wrote:Step 1-
Build it up... (but dont use any kick rolls) Using synths that start low then get higher in pitch (easily modulated with an envelope).

Step 2-
Pause... Leave the listener hangin on his/her edge of their seats.

Step 3-
Drop that filth.

step 4-

£$£$£$£ Profit £$£$£$£
To be honest I think those rises are sounding just about as rinsed as the whole dnb kick drum build up.

It's all about texture, your drop is going to have an impact either because things become very sparse jut beforehand, or everything has gradually layered up to a peak.

Re: The Drop

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:52 pm
by Blue Patterns
in addition to all the on point advice given, and in relation to what the man wrexile said is something Rusko drops in his production master class:

lower everything in the intro by 1-3 db.


another thing I've started doing is after the 16-32 bar intro....have a sort of minimal drop for the next 8 bars instead of the actual drop. so it kinda is like "wow what a weak drop....this is womp womp"....and then after that 8 bars the bass and all the things them come like BOH!!!!


you see...

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:22 am
by DjTrainWreck
Thanks alot guys these tips are helpfull. im a bit buzzed tonigt but tomorrow when i continue with my track im sure the drop will be as good as i wanted. If you have any other suggestions Im mor than happy to hear them

:D

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:47 am
by wrexile
aesthetics wrote:
wrexile wrote:Something I don't do enough is making sure that the sounds you're using, if they're going to be used as a constant, full part of the track, used at the beginning being a tiny bit quieter than they will be in the rest of the tune.
Say... the drums (I typed drugs there unconsciously lol), the atmospherics, the melodies etc.
We need a "tip of the week" award...
This one is fucking awesome.
I'm opening a thread, with nominations and everything, poll at the end of the week (friday) with the 3-5 best ones.
Winner gets to brag about it in his sig :)

yeah, no?
Whaaaeeyyy shuuuuckssss Aesthetics, you ol' sweet-talker you :mrgreen: Cheers mate ;)
I'm in! : )

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:51 am
by Depone
therapist wrote:
Depone wrote:Step 1-
Build it up... (but dont use any kick rolls) Using synths that start low then get higher in pitch (easily modulated with an envelope).

Step 2-
Pause... Leave the listener hangin on his/her edge of their seats.

Step 3-
Drop that filth.

step 4-

£$£$£$£ Profit £$£$£$£
To be honest I think those rises are sounding just about as rinsed as the whole dnb kick drum build up.

It's all about texture, your drop is going to have an impact either because things become very sparse jut beforehand, or everything has gradually layered up to a peak.
I know its hard to tell, but i was 100% saying this as sarcasm :lol:

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:06 am
by therapist
Depone wrote:
therapist wrote:
Depone wrote:Step 1-
Build it up... (but dont use any kick rolls) Using synths that start low then get higher in pitch (easily modulated with an envelope).

Step 2-
Pause... Leave the listener hangin on his/her edge of their seats.

Step 3-
Drop that filth.

step 4-

£$£$£$£ Profit £$£$£$£
To be honest I think those rises are sounding just about as rinsed as the whole dnb kick drum build up.

It's all about texture, your drop is going to have an impact either because things become very sparse jut beforehand, or everything has gradually layered up to a peak.
I know its hard to tell, but i was 100% saying this as sarcasm :lol:
Oh. So you think he should use some kick rolls??? You FUCKING SELLOUT!

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:13 am
by Depone
therapist wrote:
Depone wrote:
therapist wrote:
Depone wrote:Step 1-
Build it up... (but dont use any kick rolls) Using synths that start low then get higher in pitch (easily modulated with an envelope).

Step 2-
Pause... Leave the listener hangin on his/her edge of their seats.

Step 3-
Drop that filth.

step 4-

£$£$£$£ Profit £$£$£$£
To be honest I think those rises are sounding just about as rinsed as the whole dnb kick drum build up.

It's all about texture, your drop is going to have an impact either because things become very sparse jut beforehand, or everything has gradually layered up to a peak.
I know its hard to tell, but i was 100% saying this as sarcasm :lol:
Oh. So you think he should use some kick rolls??? You FUCKING SELLOUT!
Haha. Red handed :h: :)

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:15 am
by jsills
^^ :lol: ^^

bigup to minimal drops. i even hear tunes that go 8,8,16 that drop a little harder with each one. trying that trick next.

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:24 am
by LFpHUNK
dynamics, my dear watson, dynamics

Re: The Drop

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:08 am
by narcissus
i started to describe my method and philosophy concerning drops... but then concluded that it wouldn't really help anybody, because it's more the way my mind in particular works.