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Dubstep feature in URB magazine!
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:09 pm
by little boh peep
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:19 pm
by parson
quality article if needlessly bitchy:
Yet there is an ever-looming threat of history repeating itself. With producers like Tech Itch and Stakka getting into the dubstep game, perhaps such an outcome is inevitable
don't blame tech itch and stakka for dnb sucking
the reason dnb sucks is because the fanbase is an entirely different crowd being catered to by entirely different producers than in the 90s.
don't blame the oldschool
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:22 pm
by thinking
great article, well-researched.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:40 pm
by crazydave
Like it.
URB is published in America, right..?
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:58 pm
by james g
Great read.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:35 pm
by selector.dub.u
"I don't know what dubstep means as a word, 'cause this music was around for years without a name," says Burial. "Just the clubs and labels and producers, pirates. When dubstep as a word feels wrong or gets fucked over, then it will just keep its head down and rise again as something new. It's always been here in some way."
-Burial
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:23 pm
by kuma
Am I the only one who didn't like it?
Felt like a cut and paste out of wikipedia with a few quotes tossed in...
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:09 am
by wicked sway
Parson wrote:quality article if needlessly bitchy:
Yet there is an ever-looming threat of history repeating itself. With producers like Tech Itch and Stakka getting into the dubstep game, perhaps such an outcome is inevitable
don't blame tech itch and stakka for dnb sucking
the reason dnb sucks is because the fanbase is an entirely different crowd being catered to by entirely different producers than in the 90s.
don't blame the oldschool
Well I dont even think Stakka is getting into Dubstep. Think they meant Skynet. I think Skynets dubstep is awesome too.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:58 am
by blackdown
i thought it was interesting he focused so much on Stone Cold. it's an amazing record, but given it was so much part of UK garage history i dont tend to use it as a particular starting reference point for dubstep.
"there is an ever-looming threat of history repeating itself. With producers like Tech Itch and Stakka getting into the dubstep game, perhaps such an outcome is inevitable."
this quote is also a bit alarmist. although lots of people fear dubstep will fall off just as d&b did, right now there's no absolute proof it will - too many innovators are hard at work right to ensuring it wont.
otherwise it's a very accurate piece. anyone know who Brandon Ivers is?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:03 am
by enzyme
It's an ok article, but I doubt it will have much effect at all on the scene. I'm sure everyone will nit pick it to death, but eh, it serves its purpose. They mostly chose the right people to interview...
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:10 am
by freqone
I am an avid reader of URB... but as said above... It was needlessly bitchy....As all articles in URB are. And really, the article is very loose ended... And not exactly informative.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:10 am
by freqone
Kuma wrote:Am I the only one who didn't like it?
Felt like a cut and paste out of wikipedia with a few quotes tossed in...
Agreed 110%
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:12 am
by freqone
Kuma wrote:Am I the only one who didn't like it?
Felt like a cut and paste out of wikipedia with a few quotes tossed in...
Agreed 110%
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:31 pm
by wicked sway
Blackdown wrote:"there is an ever-looming threat of history repeating itself. With producers like Tech Itch and Stakka getting into the dubstep game, perhaps such an outcome is inevitable."
this quote is also a bit alarmist. although lots of people fear dubstep will fall off just as d&b did, right now there's no absolute proof it will - too many innovators are hard at work right to ensuring it wont.
How has DNB fallen off? Becos you read it in URB, one of the most commercial not knowing what the fuck they talk about wank mag in EDM?!
I talk to 2 owners of DNB Distros on a weekly basis, and they assure me that DNB is fine, it aint dying and it aint going nowhere, just Saturated. I mean sure the sales arent as they were when DNB peeked. Still releases are selling out. Each week Distros are each dropping 10 releases a week. Record stores like Redeye, Juno are still selling vinyl. Popular DJ's are still booked all month:Flying here to there.
I firmly believe DNB sales in Vinyl will be ok. The problem is the market is saturated. DNB is going to be OK. Too many people involved in it, and there is still really, REALLY good music being written, and die hard Junglists who still support.
Its not like Disco, and how that died. We are too connected with information as a whole for that too happen again. In DNB, Dubstep, Techno or what have you. In the end the real soldiers will still be there doing their thang.
As for innovators: DNB has just as many, who are working to push the music forward, just like Dubstep. The thing with Niche music is that at a point it expands, gains popularity thru noobs, it gets old and loses their interest. Dubstep will have a peek the same as all these other styles have, it will then come back to earth, where the money isnt always as good. I often say though, I never got into music for the money, it was always the music, women & drugs.
Also these guys need to get there facts straight as Stakka doesnt even write Dubstep, or at least he didnt when I talked to him 2 weeks ago. As a read, well anything that I read about teh Dubstep is enjoyable, ...so it seems.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:08 pm
by samsupa
Kuma wrote:Am I the only one who didn't like it?
Felt like a cut and paste out of wikipedia with a few quotes tossed in...
Kind of feel this way myself.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:08 pm
by prisoner
Blackdown wrote:anyone know who Brandon Ivers is?
i only know him through friends, but he's originally from minnesota, used to play dnb under the name Scam. I think he's living in NYC now. pretty cool guy. he's written several other articles for urb that are usually worth reading.
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:28 pm
by paolo
i know dubstep is influenced by and sort of evolved from dnb/jungle, but is it really a good idea to draw parallels between different genres of music? i'm not saying it's a waste of time, it's just something i've been wondering about
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:09 pm
by freqone
paolo wrote:i know dubstep is influenced by and sort of evolved from dnb/jungle, but is it really a good idea to draw parallels between different genres of music? i'm not saying it's a waste of time, it's just something i've been wondering about
It does seem a bit redundant[?spelling?] when the sounds becomes of its own. :. becomming a new genre all together...
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:32 am
by Anha83
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:52 am
by struggle
prisoner wrote:Blackdown wrote:anyone know who Brandon Ivers is?
i only know him through friends, but he's originally from minnesota, used to play dnb under the name Scam. I think he's living in NYC now. pretty cool guy. he's written several other articles for urb that are usually worth reading.
he lives in seattle. nice fella.