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Disto wrote:I don't have much experience with Ableton but in my opinion Logic is the best of the bunch, worth buying a Mac for alone.

deadly habit wrote:dood, you're getting a dell

thierry_le_dj wrote:recently i've been having so much trouble with my p.c i just can't stand it anymore
so am thinking switching to a Mac although i do not know much about Mac's but the tower is so dam sexy but
i think i will save up for a Mac book so maybe i can get serato later on and take it on the road with me
but the thing is i will also have to change new DAW
so am not sure which would be best for Mac
Ableton or Logic?

thierry_le_dj wrote:

Disto wrote:I don't have much experience with Ableton but in my opinion Logic is the best of the bunch, worth buying a Mac for alone.

thanks!
will look into logic
i guess ableton would be good for live tho
would you know what kind of mac book is good for production rams/cpu etc ?

levitate wrote:Ableton is great but I've found that at a certain point you hit a brick wall in terms of its DAW capabilities.

It entirely depends on what kind of techniques you're using / want to use. My techno-head friend swears by Ableton as a sole DAW, but then again he is quite spartan in his setup: bass synth, analogue drum machine emulator, synth, etc.

I've pretty much entirely switched onto Logic now. It takes a long time to get really comfortable with it - a lot longer than Ableton - but it's worth investing the time, you can do pretty much anything on here. If you mostly use midi then perhaps Ableton would be better as a DAW, there's some great sequencing possibilities on there, especially now they've sorted out the limit on the automatable parameters. But I like using a lot of audio, and Logic is clearly better for that, for a number of reasons. Just a proviso though - if you're really into a more audio setup, Cubase is the king. There's a number of things on Logic that still frustrate me that were basic features of Cubase, before I moved to mac (and before they ported Cubase to Mac) - in Cubase you can do offline effects processing within the arrange window etc - loads of potential for when I used to make mad cutup breakcore type business. Logic you can't. Also, in Cubase you can control a region of audio's volume, fade in and fade out within the arrange window; in Logic it's much more complex. Cubase is basically a a full DAW evolved from a kind of audio-editing backgroud; Logic is a full DAW evolved from a more midi-sequencing background. Ableton is the alien evolved from something else. Loads of things Logic does better - routing is amazing, for instance, and I think the general organisational system of regions/audio bin/etc is better, but I do miss the audio processing features of Cubase!

Anyway, rambling, all are great tools, but you might want to think about your working style before you shell £££ on the DAW. Logic is by far the best value, pound for pound, IMO. Also, Macs are fantastic for music, there is just a simplicity and efficiency in things like the folder structure and search features (find samples bare quickly) and they just don't crash, really. Take the plunge!

ninjadog wrote:My PC broke down after 7 years of good service. But I have kind of adopted the GF's macbook. Just for general use the macs take a bit of getting used to, but are easy to learn. This macbook is super reliable and fast after almost three years...Hopefully it holds up.
I dont want to buy a PC ever again...But then again it sucks macs dont have HDMI out yet...I think I'm set on a macbook pro once I can afford it...

ninjadog wrote: I dont want to buy a PC ever again...But then again it sucks macs dont have HDMI out yet...I think I'm set on a macbook pro once I can afford it...

jolly wailer wrote:Logic will change your life.

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