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thanks

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:50 pm
by Dotwonkwonk
thank you

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:57 pm
by BananaBomber
Get a synth put an lfo at a slow rate on the pitch :)

done

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:57 pm
by Astral
Just sounds like short risers with filters sweeping.

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:08 pm
by Dotwonkwonk
Cheers for the quick replies!!!wow!
Rises? What are they?

My english s kind of limited!

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:21 pm
by serox
Dotwonkwonk wrote:Cheers for the quick replies!!!wow!
Rises? What are they?

My english s kind of limited!
Rise, as in 'goes up'. The sound sounds like it is going up and rises. Often used in breaks/breakdowns.

I am on pc built in speakers but like someone said it sounds like a lead with automation on bp/hp filter or pitch etc.

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:44 pm
by stereotactic
would fm8 be a good starting poibt?
It's probably worth saying a couple important things mate, just to help you along your way...

1. You don't need a certain type of synth to get a certain type of sound. All synths will be capable, in some form or another, of getting the result you require. Some are better at certain things than others, but almost all produce sound waves to be manipulated by filtering, effects and modulation sources etc. I suggest going and reading up on synthesis, if you want to learn how to do this, you need to put in the study time, believe.

2. FM8 is probably not the best place to start synth-wise IMO. Frequency modulation synthesis is a little more complicated than 'common or garden' subtractive synthesis, especially for a noob. My advice would be to get hold of a decent free synth like Oatmeal or Synth1 as you will probably find these easier to understand to start with... If you have something like Massive or Albino already, then use those.

3. Read the last sentence of point one again :D

Once you have your head round it, you will be able to crack out whatever sound you want. Takes a while though, trust me! Most important tip is have fun. Man that always sounds so cliched, but if it ain't fun, there is no point, right?

Good luck man.

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:34 pm
by Basic A
hey stereotactic, you forgot too make him read the 'How to make a noise' article!!!

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:00 am
by Dotwonkwonk
[quote][hey stereotactic, you forgot too make him read the 'How to make a noise' article!!!
/quote]
are you being sarcastic???top class
you could also reply to me instead of talking of me to another member
but i suppose you know everything bout sound design top notch answer!
Just brilliant!!!another big head on the web

To stereotactic
learning synthesis is sure the way to go
however i am working long shifts ,music is a hobby for me
i am no math theory crack head and thought that i could ask a community
some help- advice and no such things as
you know what mate???why dont you open a book and study??And leave us alone!!!
To a certain extend it is true but it is so vast that i could read all my life and yet not find a way to achieve that kind of sound!!!
Thank you

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:30 am
by deadly_habit

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:53 am
by Dotwonkwonk
Linkk doesnt work for me

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:55 am
by sollabong
i love these "make a music with tutorial" threads... practice and experience makes perfect...and what's more important, your own experiences will make your own style and sound :z:

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:03 pm
by Lichee
deadly habit wrote:
ha

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:56 am
by stereotactic
To stereotactic
learning synthesis is sure the way to go
however i am working long shifts ,music is a hobby for me
i am no math theory crack head and thought that i could ask a community
some help- advice and no such things as
you know what mate???why dont you open a book and study??And leave us alone!!!
To a certain extend it is true but it is so vast that i could read all my life and yet not find a way to achieve that kind of sound!!!
Thank you
Dude, if you had a better understanding of how a synth works you may not have needed to ask in the first place. Music is a hobby for all of us, but I can guarantee you that everyone has looked into how synthesis works at some point. If your hobby is cars, you are going to find out how an engine works, right? I never said don't ask questions or 'leave us alone', I was trying to help you mate. I will think twice next time.
hey stereotactic, you forgot too make him read the 'How to make a noise' article!!!
I'm having trouble trying to figure out the point of that comment. Coming from the man who somehow felt it necessary to call out Datsik though, that comes as little surprise I guess.

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:08 pm
by Basic A
How is my Datsik thread related to this, and why are you guys getting so uppety?
Dotwonkwonk wrote: are you being sarcastic???top class
you could also reply to me instead of talking of me to another member
but i suppose you know everything bout sound design top notch answer!
Just brilliant!!!another big head on the web
How, sir, was I being big headed? I told you too go read an artcle, which I feel is VERY nessasary reading material for anyone wishing to learn synthesis. If you wanna get pretentious and uppety about being told to read up on syntesis, dont ask on a forum for advice on how to learn synthesis!!! Im not beign sarcastic or an asshole, Im reffering you too a valuable piece of reading material.
stereotactic wrote: I'm having trouble trying to figure out the point of that comment. Coming from the man who somehow felt it necessary to call out Datsik though, that comes as little surprise I guess.
WTF is this about? So I mentioned something interesting I had noticed about some datsik tunes, all of a sudden that makes you guys too good for an article which has helped producers for years? Im so dumbfounded as to what your getting at with this?
stereotactic wrote: Dude, if you had a better understanding of how a synth works you may not have needed to ask in the first place. Music is a hobby for all of us, but I can guarantee you that everyone has looked into how synthesis works at some point. If your hobby is cars, you are going to find out how an engine works, right? I never said don't ask questions or 'leave us alone', I was trying to help you mate. I will think twice next time.
Okay, so tell him to read, and in the same post, discredit the reading material I offered???

W/E, next time I feel like reccomending a piece of timelessly valuable reading material, Ill keep my mouth shut... God forbid a newbie joins and asks about making dub and you were too point them at the production bible,that things so useful, you guys would probably throw some SERIOUS shit fits.

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:24 pm
by antics
You want an automation on a low pass filter I think that goes from low to high (This effect could be made a couple of other ways, i.e just a straight pitch modulation, so it depends what sounds right)

Then to get it a bit more sweeping, you want a second low pass filter that has a very quick lfo (you could alternatively pan via an LFO). The aim of this is to get some movement, so that it doesnt feel like a straight forward pitch transition.

The original synth noise itself is up to you, as you can either go harsh or soft depending on the vibe you're going for.

A similar effect ran be made using a tecnique called 'reverse reverb' which is pretty much what it says on the tin, you reverse a reverb tail so that instead of dissappearing outwards, it sucks inwards.

If you listen around a bit, you'll hear these kind of noises alot in commercial music for songs, so if you find a couple you like you could either sample them or try and replicate...

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:36 am
by stereotactic
How is my Datsik thread related to this, and why are you guys getting so uppety?

Dotwonkwonk wrote:
are you being sarcastic???top class
you could also reply to me instead of talking of me to another member
but i suppose you know everything bout sound design top notch answer!
Just brilliant!!!another big head on the web

How, sir, was I being big headed? I told you too go read an artcle, which I feel is VERY nessasary reading material for anyone wishing to learn synthesis. If you wanna get pretentious and uppety about being told to read up on syntesis, dont ask on a forum for advice on how to learn synthesis!!! Im not beign sarcastic or an asshole, Im reffering you too a valuable piece of reading material.

stereotactic wrote:
I'm having trouble trying to figure out the point of that comment. Coming from the man who somehow felt it necessary to call out Datsik though, that comes as little surprise I guess.

WTF is this about? So I mentioned something interesting I had noticed about some datsik tunes, all of a sudden that makes you guys too good for an article which has helped producers for years? Im so dumbfounded as to what your getting at with this?

stereotactic wrote:
Dude, if you had a better understanding of how a synth works you may not have needed to ask in the first place. Music is a hobby for all of us, but I can guarantee you that everyone has looked into how synthesis works at some point. If your hobby is cars, you are going to find out how an engine works, right? I never said don't ask questions or 'leave us alone', I was trying to help you mate. I will think twice next time.

Okay, so tell him to read, and in the same post, discredit the reading material I offered???

W/E, next time I feel like reccomending a piece of timelessly valuable reading material, Ill keep my mouth shut... God forbid a newbie joins and asks about making dub and you were too point them at the production bible,that things so useful, you guys would probably throw some SERIOUS shit fits.
Ok, so I think I may have totally misunderstood the tone of your comment man, I thought you were rippin' on me. If that's the case mate then I apologise, sincerely. I obviously hadn't had my Wheeties that morning.

To the original poster, 'How to Make a Sound' is an excellent starting point, it's a free e book you can download, just google it. With regards not having time to study, you really are going to need to gain an understanding at some point my friend, it kinda goes with the territory... As Basic A said and I totally forgot about (for shame), there is a production bible at the top of the forum with loads of priceless info in it.

Re: Get this sound?

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:41 am
by nowaysj
Dotwonkwonk wrote:learning synthesis is sure the way to go however i am working long shifts
:i: