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Massive sin undertones

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:35 pm
by gadders
Howdy, just making a patch in massive and its got some really annoying sine-like undertones where the normal sub would be on the waves, is it possible to get rid of them? Eqing them out just cripples the sound!

Cheers,
Phil.

Re: Massive sin undertones

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:02 pm
by beerz
if they are sine-like then then im assuming they are resonating at a pretty narrow frequency range so a very narrow eq would should be able to eliminate them, its quite a common thing....

obviously you say this cripples the sound then you should go back along the signal chain and try n find the source of the fault. are you deffinately eqing quite finely?

Re: Massive sin undertones

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:22 pm
by Basic A
Yeah, with a synth like massive, unless yourmodulating some SERIOUS harmonic range post oscillator, it seems too me like you should be able to figure out your problem pretty easily... Ive never used massive side from a few chill sessions just fuckin around with presets on peoples keyboards... but like... this sounds like something flawed in your programming, and something you shouldnt have to even put an eq too, just solve in the synth.

But, your best bet if you really cant, would be to break out a para EQ, start from like, the high end or wherever you KNOW the sound isnt sitting, turn the slope up, and sweep he EQ down until you get rid of everything you WANT, n just have the nasty undertones... Then invert your EQ. I say do it this way, because for me, its always been eaiser to isolate exactly what I dont want and then invert, rather then try and decifer the good from the bad with everything rolling...

Re: Massive sin undertones

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:04 pm
by gadders
Hmm but ive havn't got anything fancy going on, just 3 oscillators, -24, -12 and 0 with different waveforms linked up to a low pass filter routed to the lfo on performance mode as usual. The problem is i have a pattern cycling in the performance lfo tab opening the filter with a few blips here and there but then the rest of the time this low sub bass tone plays which i cant get rid of. If i can't get rid of this tone in the synth then the only way would be to automate the volume to 0, or have 3 different instances of massive running each lfo pattern i want so It doesn't have to cycle through the performance sequencer creating the long sub bass drones where i haven't drawn any lfo curves in. Notching out frequencies doesn't quite eliminate the sound totally.

Hope that makes sense!

edit: Here's what i mean:
Soundcloud

Re: Massive sin undertones

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:37 pm
by jolly wailer
decay/sustain issue in the ADSR?

Re: Massive sin undertones

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:52 pm
by Astral
http://i46.tinypic.com/34qr70x.jpg check those
Sounds like one of your lowest osc is going through the other filter.

Edit: background spelling fail

Re: Massive sin undertones

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:00 am
by mmjdw
Turn the lowpass filter down fully