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Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:55 pm
by drokkr
A great piece by Joe Muggs for Don't Panic...
http://dontpaniconline.com/magazine/cro ... ew-detroit
Nice article Joe
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:20 pm
by bobby_dozen
Nice one Joe & Drokkr. Good read.
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:12 pm
by twentyOneDummies
Goes to show that you can't predict the musical movements that'll change the world. If you'd ask someone in 2002 what we'd all be listening to they'd have never guessed..
Great piece!
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:22 pm
by jackbass
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:31 pm
by marla
LOL at the title
cool article
dubstep is taking over the world
as it should be
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:29 am
by rinseballs21
what did plastician produce for snoop dogg??
someone fill me in please
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:25 am
by LA_Boxers
Shame we havent got many good clubs like Detroit tho!!
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:45 am
by Pistonsbeneath
tonight in the new detroit i am playing the black sheep bar from 9pm-1am
taking 92 records with me...gonna play everything from old dmz's to reso & pixel fist...
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3 ... 27&index=1
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:23 am
by LA_Boxers
^^^^^^ Im there!!
Might not hear all 92 tho.
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:01 pm
by JimmaJamJamie
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:35 pm
by blackdown
very enthusiastic piece Joe.
check the reference to "
Croydon techno" in 2004. Some familiar names all up in the comments box!
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:19 pm
by one2heavy
another nice article.big up
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:28 pm
by probert
Yeah LIVE for a bit of mid-week steppin!
SUBSTEP @BAR SE7EN Croydon this Fri too!
http://www.dubstepforum.com/substep-bar ... 28988.html
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:32 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
Nice article Joe.
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:01 pm
by hanif
haha nice
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:09 pm
by fractal
kind of a stretch on the title, but a great read all together! dubstep's influence can be seen all over the place these days
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:31 pm
by alphacat
Great read. The only thing I'd like to point out though is that in Croydon, at least you're a few tube stops away from one of the world's epicenters of culture; while peeps in Detroit have to drive almost 400 km, or 230 miles,
over a border into with another country (to Toronto) to get that. Basically what I'm saying is - although I've never been to Croydon, it can't be worse than Detroit. Seriously.
I'd never really thought much about the blurring effect of Dubstep ("short-circuited old oppositions between street and geek, populist and avant-garde, innovation and tradition") in these terms before, but Joe's right. This music is post-post-modern. Also interesting is the effect that all of the documentation mentioned in the article will have - even though Jungle came of age at the beginning of the modern internet era, between the exponentially larger audience using computers to interface with their music (blogs, iTunes, and all the rest of it) and the ongoing proliferation of technology (cheaper and cheaper video cameras, DAWs, etc) it's likely that Dubstep will be one of the most internally well-documented musical subcultures yet.
I remember almost a decade ago when I first started hearing rumblings about the new bass mutations coming out of the UK - words like Grime, Eski, 8-bar, Sublow - and actively seeking out examples to listen to. While Grime is fine and all, I already was past the point of being into Hip Hop and the MC-based thing wasn't speaking to me (pun intended.) It was only when I heard the crazy, experimental sounds and wildly different styles being lumped together loosely under the Dubstep tag that I knew I'd found my next musical calling.
Joe Muggs wrote:Dubstep provided a way out: a realisation that experimental music could aim for the dancefloor without always harking back to the mania of jungle, that tunes could have sophisticated production and musicality and huge, authentic soundsystem oomph.
^THIS.
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:33 pm
by mocsun23
fantastic read. bookmarked!
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:55 pm
by the-voice-of-reason
LOL stupid title .
Cryoden = N-Type,Skream,Mala,Coki,Benga,Plastician,Hatcha (cant really think of anyone else)
VS
Detroit = Drexcyia,Deep Chord,Omar-s,Kyle Hall,Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson,Derrick May ,Anthony Shakir, Carl Craig, Dopplereffekt,Jimmy Edgar, Kenny Larkin , Moodymann, Octave One, Richie Hawtin,Robert Hood, Suburban Knight,Stacey Pullen,Terrence Dixon,Theo Parrish
Detroit Wins/Won and will keep on winning . if you stack up past history and the influence and reach on the world of music the two place have .....Detroit pisses all over Croydon.
Re: Croydon is the new Detroit
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:59 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
the-voice-of-reason wrote:LOL stupid title .
Cryoden = N-Type,Skream,Mala,Coki,Benga,Plastician,Hatcha (cant really think of anyone else)
VS
Detroit = Drexcyia,Deep Chord,Omar-s,Kyle Hall,Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson,Derrick May ,Anthony Shakir, Carl Craig, Dopplereffekt,Jimmy Edgar, Kenny Larkin , Moodymann, Octave One, Richie Hawtin,Robert Hood, Suburban Knight,Stacey Pullen,Terrence Dixon,Theo Parrish
Detroit Wins/Won and will keep on winning . if you stack up past history and the influence and reach on the world of music the two place have .....Detroit pisses all over Croydon.
He's not saying Croydon is better than Detroit.