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DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:50 am
by crunkedxup
i was wondering how the hi-hats in songs by people like Taxman and that are made? i always assumed it was just hi-hats on every step at that tempo but since ive recently tried to recreate ive realised theres a lot more to it. below is the most relevant non-DnB example i can find. comes in at about 0:21 i dont give a fuck if you like the song or not.




cheers!

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:01 am
by deadly_habit
shuffle and ghost hits :wink:

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:03 am
by deadly_habit
oh and that tune is horrid :lol:

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:07 am
by crunkedxup
haha i know i know. can you elaborate on what a ghost hit is?

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:11 am
by deadly_habit

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:23 am
by crunkedxup
cheers

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:55 am
by lowpass
How is it that I don't listen to this music and I've heard this song too many times?

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:13 am
by Lethargik
lowpass wrote:How is it that I don't listen to this music and I've heard this song too many times?
they say the same abt dubstep :wink:

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:29 am
by Freshman
Check out this read, when i first read it i found it quite useful!

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/DnBprogramming.pdf

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:27 am
by Simbaa
try messing with the pitch of adjacent notes. I'm not sure of an easy way to do this unless you're working in audio, or have a few hihat tracks of different pitch.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:00 pm
by serox
Simbaa wrote:try messing with the pitch of adjacent notes. I'm not sure of an easy way to do this unless you're working in audio, or have a few hihat tracks of different pitch.
Why do you need to be working with audio to change the pitch?

This hi hat pattern sounds like it is 2 hi hats going with velocity changes.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:22 pm
by mistayif
mess with pitch, velocity and volume

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:45 pm
by Wrigzilla
Try using at least 2 different high hat samples and move some of them so that they are just a few ticks before or after the beat.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:26 pm
by tripaddict
wraping hihats around one another

ie.

0101010101010101
1010101010101010
or ...
####s#######s### (snr)
b#######b####### (bd)
#h#h#h#h#h#h#h#h (hh1)
##h#h#h###h#h#h# (hh2)

and fyi thats dnb def not jungle lol

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:32 pm
by JFK
tripaddict wrote:wraping hihats around one another

ie.

0101010101010101
1010101010101010
or ...
####s#######s### (snr)
b#######b####### (bd)
#h#h#h#h#h#h#h#h (hh1)
##h#h#h###h#h#h# (hh2)

and fyi thats dnb def not jungle lol
Well put man.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:40 pm
by Sharmaji
layers and layers of breaks and 1 hits.

check out chase & status' d&b production vid on YT.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:51 pm
by tripaddict
@jfk cheers bud :)

you know this ... im a junglist :D

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:03 pm
by yamaz
What is the difference between jungle and dnb then?

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:41 pm
by tripaddict
yamaz wrote:What is the difference between jungle and dnb then?
jungle is usually reggae influenced with drum patterns in 8/4 (1994-1998 for true old skool jungle)

dnb is usually 4/4 and use a wider variety of breaks and bass

i have a documentary ill dig out for you you should also try n get hold of 'a london someting' describes how jungle came from acid house / old skool, staring most of the old dnb heads n shabba when he was 15 lol

and this ...

<< big up my wolves crew bbbbbrrrrrrap!!!!


Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:49 pm
by crunkedxup
yeah im aware of the difference its just i always thought those types of a hi-hats originated in jungle. i listen to jungle more than i do DnB.

thanks a lot for the replies.