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Personally i think it all depends on the tune you're remixing, for example:

Mala's "alicia" is a remix of an old alicia keys song/interlude thing..and it's obviously brilliant:



I'm a fan of bar 9 and they seem to do good remixes, with originallity and flow..

like the deftones one: (note, all you "midrange" haters, its a remix of a already heavy "midranged spectrum" tune, so its meant to sound distorted.)



and indisco:


also Widdler's remix of day and night is superb. (even though it's a well heard track originally unlike the tunes above):



These kind of remixes make me enjoy dubstep alot more, however the ones by mt eden, that ben h kid, and general asswipes taking song of the top 10 charts and adding "wobble-in-a-can" with a shit drum beat irritate me alot,

but what are your opinions?

Like with any bootleg, which is essentially what you're referring to, it's all about contextual application.

A piece of shit is a piece of shit no matter how you attempt to shine it up.

However.

A good tune approached with a certain amount of verve, swerve and honesty will likely do well across the board, see Mala's refix of Alicia.

IMO, no. i think its just like collaborating. adding your ideas to someone elses.

"see Mala's refix of Alicia"

you mean the first tune i posted up there? haha

SketchyDub wrote:
These kind of remixes make me enjoy dubstep alot more, however the ones by mt eden, that ben h kid, and general asswipes taking song of the top 10 charts and adding "wobble-in-a-can" with a shit drum beat irritate me alot,

but what are your opinions?

there are some tracks out there that shouldnt be remixed. alot of these bandwagon producers on youtube are picking ANYTHING to remix, maybe as they cant make a track from scratch, or dont have the musical prowess to spot a song that wouldnt really work

the tracks you picked were made by established producers with a more than healthy musical knowledge. the bandwagon boys see a 10 minute 'how to make a chainsaw noise' video and think they can produce. 90% of this shit follows the same boring blueprint that appears to have been embedded as to what dubstep is.

hopefully the gimmick will wear off and they can try their hand at diluting the quality of another genre instead

brasco wrote:
...the bandwagon boys see a 10 minute 'how to make a chainsaw noise' video and think they can produce. 90% of this shit follows the same boring blueprint that appears to have been embedded as to what dubstep is.

hopefully the gimmick will wear off and they can try their hand at diluting the quality of another genre instead

you said it best brasco.

brasco wrote:

SketchyDub wrote:
These kind of remixes make me enjoy dubstep alot more, however the ones by mt eden, that ben h kid, and general asswipes taking song of the top 10 charts and adding "wobble-in-a-can" with a shit drum beat irritate me alot,

but what are your opinions?

there are some tracks out there that shouldnt be remixed. alot of these bandwagon producers on youtube are picking ANYTHING to remix, maybe as they cant make a track from scratch, or dont have the musical prowess to spot a song that wouldnt really work

the tracks you picked were made by established producers with a more than healthy musical knowledge. the bandwagon boys see a 10 minute 'how to make a chainsaw noise' video and think they can produce. 90% of this shit follows the same boring blueprint that appears to have been embedded as to what dubstep is.

hopefully the gimmick will wear off and they can try their hand at diluting the quality of another genre instead

It's not just a 'brostep' thing. Plenty of other threads to bash 'chainsaw' if you're looking to be a hater this morning.

I'm not going to point out specific artists to start shit, but recently some rather highly respected and well known producers have taken on some top 40 remix projects and they've come out absolutely whack as fuck.

If you're trying to remix a top 40 tune, you're doing so based off the popularity of the original tune.... therefor most artists are counting on the crowds familiarity of the tune to make their remix work. This means you either A) compromise the original tunes quality or B) compromise your personal creative quality to make room for the original tune.

Most top 40 remixes are shit because of that... and that extends from 'brostep' to producers at the absolute pinnacle of dubstep... 95% of pop/hip hop remixes are fucking embarassing

Gotta agree with all of the above.

It's not looked down upon if you do it right, with the right tracks and for the right reasons. It's pretty important that you do something original too.. Spamming the same synth sounds and just generally producing badly never helped anyone. And no that's not pointed at 'brostep' in specific. There's just a lot of people at the moment using that sound badly and unoriginally... Doesn't mean you can't have good 'brostep'.

Actually to be honest if it's good I wouldn't call it Brostep.. That should be reserved for unoriginal stuff IMO

i've seen some bad one's in my time:


we won't mention a certain i gotta feeling remix..

pkay wrote:

brasco wrote:

SketchyDub wrote:
These kind of remixes make me enjoy dubstep alot more, however the ones by mt eden, that ben h kid, and general asswipes taking song of the top 10 charts and adding "wobble-in-a-can" with a shit drum beat irritate me alot,

but what are your opinions?

there are some tracks out there that shouldnt be remixed. alot of these bandwagon producers on youtube are picking ANYTHING to remix, maybe as they cant make a track from scratch, or dont have the musical prowess to spot a song that wouldnt really work

the tracks you picked were made by established producers with a more than healthy musical knowledge. the bandwagon boys see a 10 minute 'how to make a chainsaw noise' video and think they can produce. 90% of this shit follows the same boring blueprint that appears to have been embedded as to what dubstep is.

hopefully the gimmick will wear off and they can try their hand at diluting the quality of another genre instead

It's not just a 'brostep' thing. Plenty of other threads to bash 'chainsaw' if you're looking to be a hater this morning.

I'm not going to point out specific artists to start shit, but recently some rather highly respected and well known producers have taken on some top 40 remix projects and they've come out absolutely whack as fuck.

If you're trying to remix a top 40 tune, you're doing so based off the popularity of the original tune.... therefor most artists are counting on the crowds familiarity of the tune to make their remix work. This means you either A) compromise the original tunes quality or B) compromise your personal creative quality to make room for the original tune.

Most top 40 remixes are shit because of that... and that extends from 'brostep' to producers at the absolute pinnacle of dubstep... 95% of pop/hip hop remixes are fucking embarassing

ok i never mentioned the b-word. but just look on youtube... there are so many videos on how to make dubstep wobbles/chainsaws etc, not so many on the actual dynamics of building a track.

unfortunately with these 'learn to produce' videos, dubstep is seen by some new producers as having almost a fixed skeleton - so they only have to add the snares and wobble. so many of these lame productions share the same similarities

i'm just saying its sad as the whole purpose of dubstep is that it is a genre with few limitations, and many arent embracing that. remix or not

brasco wrote:i'm just saying its sad as the whole purpose of dubstep is that it is a genre with few limitations, and many arent embracing that. remix or not

its getting a bit silly. The only reason people are getting an image of dubstep being mid-range wobble is that everyone remixes tunes, and they are normally midrange shite. Obviously if a remix is done well it can be sick but it seems with alot of people, they produce a tune and stick a vocal over the top rather than producing the tune around the tune they're remixing. obviously this is a genralisation

Some rather good points and no arguing, i'm impressed guys! haha.

But here's a challenge for you, i remixed a song thats not realy well known at all. Okay its pretty "midrange" or whatever you call it, cos i wanted it to appeal to everyone. A LOT of my friends like it, especially girls! however i did try really hard with it, and actually wanted it to not be shit. but hey you guys can be the judges:

so this thread is really just a plug for your tune then

jolly wailer wrote:


so this thread is really just a plug for your tune then

/thread

no i was just intrested on your opinons on it, its been out for ages and why didnt i just post it on the dubs section if i was looking for that, im just reffering to my first post.

I'm not gonna lie; it sounds like you took a song off the top ten charts and added a "wobble-in-a-can" with a generic drum beat. It's well produced but formulaic to the max.

SketchyDub wrote:... and why didnt i just post it on the dubs section if i was looking for that...

why didn't you just put it in the dubs section then

sorry just giving you a hard time

I think overall Dubstep is generally not a vocal oriented genre (obviously some exceptions, but for the most part). Putting a structured song (not just a one off vocal sample) is very iffy with dubstep to begin with. Now if those vocals are from some tune currently charting on mtv or radio one then you're walking a very very fine line. It's really easy to fall into the gimmick category.

Thus why you can count the number of really good dubstep pop/hip hop remixes on one hand.